T1B

nice game guys, this place is going batshit. I had no idea you were so good (actually yes I did) - that's a good team and mentally strong as all hell. Didn't expect a disciplined game from either side, but wow.

Nishlord wrote:I bet there are more people watching this game here than the Super Bowl.

Doubt it, but thanks for the thought.

Props to Canada. Miller stops that shot 99% of the time, just not today. Great tournament, great win for the US last Sunday, just wish that win would have been today.

I called my shot, Brodeur blows. Luongo should have started from the beginning.

Screw_Michigan wrote:

Nishlord wrote:I bet there are more people watching this game here than the Super Bowl.

Doubt it, but thanks for the thought.

Where do you think 'here' is, mong-boy?

Touche, dick. Let me know when anyone in the world worth a fuck gives a shit about British TV ratings.

Local sports hack on WRC in DC just said today's game was the highest rated hockey game of all time.

Who cares?

It's hockey.

Mikey wrote:Who cares?

It's hockey.

Still the best sport there is.

MuchoBulls wrote:

Mikey wrote:Who cares?

It's hockey.

Still the best sport there is.

The consistent speed, finesse and violence is unrivaled. Rack that take.

MuchoBulls wrote:Still the best sport there is.

It just might be the best sport there is when it is played with that kind of intensity, speed and discipline.

Got to give it up to Sid the Kid. He was already a legend in the making. With that shot he just went straight past legend to God. Great game Canada.

RACK Mr T!
Fuck CANADUH!
I'm OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT!

BSmack wrote:Got to give it up to Sid the Kid. He was already a legend in the making. With that shot he just went straight past legend to God. Great game Canada.

Yep. Just make sure to him 'em with your purse in the playoffs one more time, Sidney.

BSmack wrote: Got to give it up to Sid the Kid. He was already a legend in the making. With that shot he just went straight past legend to God. Great game Canada.

All except for a rather mediocre performance the rest of the tournament.

If he doesn't score that goal, our fishwraps would have roasted him alive tomorrow.

Dear Canada,

What is your fucking obsession with the color black? I don't see it anywhere in your fucking flag. Thanks.

Sin,

Your friends from down South

Martyred wrote:

BSmack wrote: Got to give it up to Sid the Kid. He was already a legend in the making. With that shot he just went straight past legend to God. Great game Canada.

All except for a rather mediocre performance the rest of the tournament.

If he doesn't score that goal, our fishwraps would have roasted him alive tomorrow.

Doesn't really matter.

Scoreboard, right?

What are you guying gonna do with Joe Thorton, anyway? Jesus, what a worthless POS.

Screw_Michigan wrote:
What are you guying gonna do with Joe Thorton, anyway? Jesus, what a worthless POS.

Like you said:

"politics"

Screw_Michigan wrote:Dear Canada,

What is your fucking obsession with the color black? I don't see it anywhere in your fucking flag. Thanks.

Sin,

Your friends from down South

It's a cold weather colour, numbnuts - black draws heat

Screwey is drunk on jizz. Forgive him.

watching NBC's gay highlight show. they are showing the flying tomato.

holy fukking shit that dude gets air.

he was definitely the most dominant athlete of the games.

smackaholic wrote:watching NBC's gay highlight show. they are showing the flying tomato.

holy fukking shit that dude gets air.

he was definitely the most dominant athlete of the games.

I'm actually watching this shit too. WTF is wrong with us? They stopped showing Vonn highlights an hour ago and half of them were of her crying ( ), but at least most of them were her looking hot NOT in her full ski gear.

Fuck you, Canada. At least I'm listening to Wolf Parade right now. Should be watching Trailer Park Boys. Yes, I'm in FULL melt mode right now. That was OUR fucking game. Fuck your shitty hockey politics actually working out in your favor.

Neil Young is supposed to play the closing ceremonies. When is that shit supposed to happen?

it was nice to see that frenchie canuck chick who lost her mom do well. nice thick skater chick ass unlike the skinny zipperheads that are currently running chicks skating.

I've been to the Canadian Embassy three of the last seven nights to watch Olympic hockey and I have to rack you Canadians for throwing sweet hockey-centered parties and, of course, serving us free Molson Canadian. Last Sunday, after the US beat Canada, I tried to score one last free beer as the game end. Bar was closed. I noticed tonight as we left the bar was still WIDE OPEN for a while.

Props, dicks.

thye should strap neil down to a luge and send him into that steel pole for a finale.

can somebody please 'splain to me why some shit band from winni fukking peg is playing and not rush?

what a brilliant song ...

waaaaaahuuuuuu-uuuuu-uh

van coooooooooooooooooooooooo-oooooooooooooooo-vuh

they should machine gun the lot of those snowboarder punks.

We're watching the 50K CC ski race here. Guess we must be on tape delay again.

Don't give me the fuckin' set list and ruin the suspense!

set list for whom? btw, that was a kick ass xc race. those fukkers are amazing they go flat out for 30 miles. the finish was decide by a few ft.

rack those fukkers who are cardio freaks of nature.

watching Alanis Morisette rip off Massive Attack was just surreal in closing ceremony.

Nobody cares anymore.

Q, West Coast Style wrote:

How the fuck did KC Paul score a ride on an Olympic bobsled? I thought those things had weight restrictions.

Glad we could agree.

BSmack wrote:

Q, West Coast Style wrote:

How the fuck did KC Paul score a ride on an Olympic bobsled? I thought those things had weight restrictions.

That's just a slightly puffy warm-up suit.

BSmack wrote:

Q, West Coast Style wrote:

How the fuck did KC Paul score a ride on an Olympic bobsled? I thought those things had weight restrictions.

the sled does have a weight restriction, the sledders, apparently not. i suspect part of night trains success is having just a little bit more potential energy at the top of the hill than all those faggy little euro sleds.

KC Scott wrote:Sorry holic, more weight would make them slower.

more weight makes their acceleration out of the gate a bit slower, but, that is negated if said fatass has a powerful enough set of legs. Once aboard, weight is your fliend. Extra weight means extra push thanks to gravity without added wind resistance. i guess there is a very tiny increase in friction, but, those blades on that ice have a pretty damn small amount of drag anyway.

if you'd like a comparison, talk to cyclist dudes. heavyweight cyclist pwn lightweight ones on the downhills. ofcourse they give it back with interest on the uphills which is why tour de frog dude is usually about the weight of paul's left calf. so, until bobsled starts having a hillclimb section, having a little extra junk in the trunk is prolly a good thing, assuming you've got the hp to get it started.

Watch out Einstein, here comes T1B!

The fatter dude would increase the drag over the ice slightly, which would make the heavier sled go slightly slower. But if the drag was somehow equalized, and the aerodynamic drag was the same...

The weight doesn't æffect how fast the sled goes down the hill.

Again, other factors will have an æffect, such as the drag coefficient over the ice and the aerodynamic drag, but the actual weight... no.

Sin,
Physics 101


Seriously, you guys need to log into T1B to learn the basic laws of fucking gravity? Seriously?

aerodynamic drag

I'll take Flying APs for $200, Alex.

Dinsdale wrote:Watch out Einstein, here comes T1B!

The fatter dude would increase the drag over the ice slightly, which would make the heavier sled go slightly slower. But if the drag was somehow equalized, and the aerodynamic drag was the same...

The weight doesn't æffect how fast the sled goes down the hill.

Again, other factors will have an æffect, such as the drag coefficient over the ice and the aerodynamic drag, but the actual weight... no.

Sin,
Physics 101


Seriously, you guys need to log into T1B to learn the basic laws of fucking gravity? Seriously?

in a vacuum, every thing you said is true.

the bobsled is not run in a vacuum.

fill a balloon with air, fill another with water. Drop them off a building. Which hits the ground first and why? They have similar drag coefficients. By your logic, they will fall at the same rate.

acceleration=32 ft/sec squared in a vacuum. bobsleds are fairly slick, but, they do have aero drag. Quite a bit of it, actually, at 90 mph.

whether or not the extra weight's increase in force overcomes the reduced acceleration is anybody's guess. I won't even pretend to be that smart.

I just know one thing. Uncle sam won the fukking 4 man with santa claus driving the thing.

rack him.

KC Scott wrote:

smackaholic wrote:
more weight makes their acceleration out of the gate a bit slower, but, that is negated if said fatass has a powerful enough set of legs. Once aboard, weight is your fliend. Extra weight means extra push thanks to gravity without added wind resistance.

No. examples; soap box derby or Nascar - it's power to weight ratio.
Same power propelling two objects - the lighter weight object will be faster.
I learned this the hard way, in 125 cc Motocross - I was 150 and the two kids that beat regularly were about 130

sorry scott, but, you don't know what the fukk you're talking about here. in a soap box derby extra weight sure as hell will help, assuming it doesn't increase drag or increase rolling resistance much. in soapbox weight IS power. nascar, last i checked doesn't run downhill, so being heavier would be nothing but a detriment. more power to weight ratio certainly does help. motocross is an even bigger example of lighter = better. comparing it or nascar is pretty much comparing apples to handgrenades though.

"Drag" is generally considered to be air resistance or fluid resistance. The force between the blades and the ice is known as "friction". Adding a fat guy would increase the friction on the blades but not affect the drag, unless his fat rolls hang over the side of the cockpit.

The whole thing is a fairly simple balance of forces.

Acceleration due to gravity (g) is constant 9.8 meters per second squared.

The force due to gravity is the mass of the object times acceleration, mg. The direction of this force is straight down.

Frictional force is propotional to the normal perpendicular force between the blades and the ice, and is related to the weight of the sled and the angle or slope of the hill. It's independent of the speed of the sled except that possibly higher speed might heat up the blades. The direction of the frictional force is in the direction opposite of the velocity.

Aerodynamic force is proportional to the velocity of the sled and is also directed in the direction opposite of the velocity. It depends on the shape of the sled, etc. but has nothing to do with the weight of the system.

When the sum of the frictional and drag forces is equal to the component of the gravity force in the direction of travel (mg times the sine of the slope), the sled will travel at a constant velocity. When the gravity force is greater it will accelerate until the forces balance. When the drag force is greater it will decelerate.

Einstein wrote:Again, other factors will have an æffect, such as the drag coefficient over the ice and the aerodynamic drag, but the actual weight... no.

So, yes Dins, the weight will have an "æffect". Acceleration due to gravity is constant. Why don't a balloon and a bowling ball fall with equal acceleration?

Clue: When the mass increases the gravitational FORCE increases. So does the friction force (in the case of the sled), but not the drag force. Also, a heavier sled will have more momentum (mv) at the start. We'll cover that in a later lesson.