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mvscal wrote:But you're an idiot.

Q, West Coast Style wrote:I'm not even certain Barry Sanders would win the award today, because he played for Oklahoma State.

Q, West Coast Style wrote:I'm not even certain Barry Sanders would win the award today, because he played for Oklahoma State.

Jsc810 wrote:The best player on the best team in football.

The right player won the award.

PrimeX wrote:

Jsc810 wrote:The best player on the best team in football.

The right player won the award.

I haven't been around in a while, but since now you're a Tide fan...care to update me on all of the teams your root for again?

As for the best team in football, I must have missed the championship game. I take it Texas lost?

PrimeX wrote:Well that sucks. I guess it's time to move onto Basketball where we're owning bitches left and right.

Jsc810 wrote:The best player on the best team in football.

The right player won the award.

Paul wrote:

Jsc810 wrote:The best player on the best team in football.

The right player won the award.

BULLSHIT- Suh's the best college defensive football player in at least the last 20 years. The Heisman SHOULD'VE been his.

Period.

Heisman voters got this one right


The next time somebody tells you that the Heisman Trophy is nothing more than an overhyped award that lost its luster a long time ago, mention the name Mark Ingram.

There was no hiding his emotion Saturday in the Nokia Theatre. He slowly exhaled several times, doing his best to compose himself. His voice cracked, and then he cried.

Admittedly overwhelmed, Ingram thanked everyone -- Nick Saban, his parents, his teammates, his sports information directors, even his teachers at Alabama.

He understood unequivocally how historic the moment was in the realm of Alabama’s proud football history.

Of all the great players who’d come before him – Joe Namath, Ken Stabler, Ozzie Newsome, Cornelius Bennett, Lee Roy Jordan and Shaun Alexander – Ingram became the first Alabama player to hoist the Heisman Trophy as his own.

Sure, there probably have been better players to come through Alabama than Ingram, the third straight sophomore to win college football’s most prestigious individual award.

But I can’t imagine there’s been one who went from role player to great player any quicker or one who’s consistently performed any better on the biggest stages than Ingram has this season. After all, he wasn't even a starter a year ago.

In five games against top 25 teams this season, Ingram averaged 165 yards per game in wins over No. 1 Florida, No. 7 Virginia Tech, No. 9 LSU, No. 20 Ole Miss and No. 22 South Carolina. He faced six of the top 28 defenses nationally and averaged 154 yards in those six contests.



And after that first hit, he had few peers when it came to gaining yardage after contact. Alabama’s senior offensive guard, Mike Johnson, said it best after Ingram set a Bryant-Denny Stadium record this season with 246 rushing yards against South Carolina.

“All he needs is a crease, and he’s going to do the rest himself,” Johnson said.

A lot of people probably didn’t see this coming from Ingram, certainly not this quickly. But early on, Saban knew he was onto something special.

I still remember sitting in Saban’s office two Augusts ago. Everybody in the state of Alabama was buzzing over the recruiting class the Crimson Tide had signed that February. Most of the analysts had it ranked No. 1 in the country, and some of the guys in that class had already reached rock-star status in the state.

At the time, Ingram wasn’t one of the big-ticket items in the class. He’d come from Flint, Mich., and wasn’t one of the freshmen everybody was clamoring about.

Saban had seen the freshmen practice for maybe a week, and I asked the proverbial “Who stood out?” question.

The first name out of his mouth … Mark Ingram.

Call me biased, but I think the Heisman voters got this one right. Having seen Ingram play live five times this season, I can say with confidence that he’s as complete a running back as I saw play all season.

To rush for 1,542 yards, score 18 touchdowns and lose just one fumble in 279 offensive touches is an amazing accomplishment in its own right. But he’s also an excellent blocker and caught 30 passes.

He's the first player in SEC history to rush for 1,500 yards and catch 30 passes in the same season.

Make no mistake. Ingram played on a great team this season and was surrounded by great talent.

But it’s nice to see that his great season was appropriately awarded.

And even nicer was to see how much it meant to him.

rozy wrote:

Paul wrote:

Jsc810 wrote:The best player on the best team in football.

The right player won the award.

BULLSHIT- Suh's the best college defensive football player in at least the last 20 years. The Heisman SHOULD'VE been his.

Period.

JSC usually craps all over himself every time he hits the submit button. But he nailed this one. You simply have not the intellectual fortitude to comprehend his actual words.

Best player on the best team.

I can buy that.

rozy wrote:Howdy, my ole friend. Long time...

Hook me up with the last interior lineman to win a Heisman. Not saying it's right just acknowledging the obvious.

As to the champ. game. Good luck. You're going to need it.

mvscal wrote:Needless to say, that isn't the criteria now is it? The award is supposed to go to the best player in college football.

PrimeX wrote:Well that sucks. I guess it's time to move onto Basketball where we're owning bitches left and right.

rozy wrote:
Besides, we don't really know how good Suh is since he played most of his games in the Little 12.

War Wagon wrote:

rozy wrote:
Besides, we don't really know how good Suh is since he played most of his games in the Little 12.

The Little 12?

Most people who watch football or have a clue know exactly how good Suh is... and so do the NFL scouts and teams who will undoubtably take him before "the best player on the best team"... did you really type that shit?

Hilarious. Maybe you should stick to the Theology forum.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:

PrimeX wrote:Well that sucks. I guess it's time to move onto Basketball where we're owning bitches left and right.

12/22 is coming, fukko.

SEC speed and talent. pfffffffft. Ingram is from Flint, bitches.

Wanna make a sig/avatard bet on that one?

In five games against top 25 teams this season, Ingram averaged 165 yards per game in wins over No. 1 Florida, No. 7 Virginia Tech, No. 9 LSU, No. 20 Ole Miss and No. 22 South Carolina. He faced six of the top 28 defenses nationally and averaged 154 yards in those six contests.

Mace wrote: Good points. If Suh could "take over a game" like some here are saying, they wouldn't have lost to Iowa State, who were playing without their best two offensive players (QB & RB).

Harvdog wrote:Steve Young
John Elway
Herschel Walker

all were runner ups. I would take the runner ups.

War Wagon wrote:

rozy wrote:
Besides, we don't really know how good Suh is since he played most of his games in the Little 12.

The Little 12?

Most people who watch football or have a clue know exactly how good Suh is... and so do the NFL scouts and teams who will undoubtably take him before "the best player on the best team"... did you really type that shit?

Hilarious. Maybe you should stick to the Theology forum.

Mace wrote:

JMak wrote:Suh is a d-lineman. He did not take over games. Nebraska was what? 9-4? Taking over does not result in losing games.

OTOH, Ingram:

In five games against top 25 teams this season, Ingram averaged 165 yards per game in wins over No. 1 Florida, No. 7 Virginia Tech, No. 9 LSU, No. 20 Ole Miss and No. 22 South Carolina. He faced six of the top 28 defenses nationally and averaged 154 yards in those six contests.

And 'Bama won all of those games, including No. 1 Florida.

Suh who?

Good points. If Suh could "take over a game" like some here are saying, they wouldn't have lost to Iowa State, who were playing without their best two offensive players (QB & RB).