Camp

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Mon Jul 27, 2009 3:26 am

Opens for the Oakland Raiders in 3 days -- July 29.

QB is Oakland's top issue, but it won't really come to full light in camp.
Fattie Russell will go into the pre-season as starter.
And odds strongly lean toward him being #1 going into the reg. season opener v. the Blots.

I think it's very conceivable that Garcia sees playing time, however.
If the offense struggles -- yep.

Top 3 Camp Issues:

1. O-Line
Sometimes "The Truth" IS the truth, and one of those times was when he warned Raider fan about K. Harris.
Yep, his ineptitude at LT set the tone for a line that just simply didn't get it done.
Again, they blocked well enough (at times) in the run game, but didn't give Russell the time he needed in the passing game.

K. Barnes is brought in and will compete with 3rd rd pick from a few years back, M. Henderson for the LT spot.
The "loser" will likely man the RT spot and C. Green will become depth ... which is a good thang.
E. Pears and was also brought in, and there are other faces to compete.
At center, J. Grove is replaced by S. Satele.
This MUST be an upgrade.

This unit must come together and they must perform.

2. Receiver
Most inept unit in the league last season.

Rookies D.H. Bey and/or L. Murphy need to get into the flow.
C. Schilens must fulfill his promise and J.L. Higgins must continue to imrove as more than just a punt return guy.
Can J. Walker bounce back?
It would be a BIG boost for us if he can.
There are other faces.

Z. Miller is a real good one at TE, and the running backs, Bush and McFadden, need to see more balls come their way.

BIG question marks with the receiving corp.

3. Defensive Look:
John Marshall was brought in from Seattle to take over for R. Ryan, who's units consistently failed to impress.
What changes in approach will we see?
More blitz packages?
Raider fan has been SCREAMING for this for ... ever.

As I look at the roster I see SUCH little depth on defense.
It concerns me.
Can small school rookie M. Mitchell really step in and give us the quality play at safety that we DESPERATELY need?
He needs a good camp.

Finally, how does Tom Cable handle his first camp?

The players like him and seemed to rally around him late in 2008.

This team NEEDS continuity and they NEED for the Cable guy to be ... THE guy to lead this team.

2009 -- It is ON!!

Shoalzie · Post by **Shoalzie** » Mon Jul 27, 2009 5:02 pm

Top 3 camp issues for the Leos...
1. Stafford or Culpepper?
2. Defensive tackles: Grady Jackson and those other guys...who will be the other starter? (Darby, Fluellen, Harris?)
3. #2 Receiver behind Megatron...Bryant Johnson, Northcutt, Williams, Colbert?

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Mon Jul 27, 2009 5:11 pm

Steelers

Top 3 issues on the field

1. Can the O-line solidify the gains they made at the end of last season and adequately protect Ben for a full season?
2. Will Rashard Mendenhall add a dose of power to the Steelers rushing attack?
3. Is this the year that the defensive line starts to show its age?

Off field

1. Can Ben's lawyers prove this McNulty woman is a lying gold digging piece of trash?

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 3:09 am

oh my...

screwed trying to make himself look relevant in the Big Boys forum with some canned takes he got from Kornholer?

DallasFanatic · Post by **DallasFanatic** » Tue Jul 28, 2009 2:42 pm

1. Left guard
2. Receivers
3. Defensive tackles

Also, what the heck are the Boys going to do with Nick Folk (ace kicker), David Buehler (kickoff specialist) and Matt McBriar(pro-bowl punter)? You can't possibly keep them all on the roster come game day. I guess when kicking is your problem you are in pretty good shape.

Neely8 · Post by **Neely8** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 5:18 pm

Pats issues:

1) Brady? All signs are that he is completely healthy and ready to go. I will believe it when I see him on the field. This probably won't happen until 9/14 on Monday night against the Bills. No way do I think we will see Tom in the preseason nor do I want to honestly.

2) Maroney? Will he finally step up and take the feature/starting RB position? Or will it be RB by committee with Fred Taylor, Sammy Morris, Kevin Faulk? I personally do not see Maroney stepping up. He is soft and fragile and not what the Pats prefer. I think he gets cut this year.....

3) Defense? With the youth and loss of Hobbs and Harrison I wonder if this group of DB's are good enough. Not to mention that the loss of Vrabel will mean less pressure on the QB which could expose that backfield. I see alot of high scoring games this year.....

ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2 · Wed Jul 29, 2009 5:38 pm

Neely8 wrote:Pats issues:

1) Brady? No way do I think we will see Tom in the preseason nor do I want to honestly.

you're kidding, right? I am pretty sure belichick will want to see how he reacts to actual opponents rolling around near the knee. physically, all signs point to him being healthy. will he still step up in the pocket and/or be willing to hang in there to take a hit? those are your questions.

Go Coogs' · Post by **Go Coogs'** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 4:38 pm

Not a lot going on on the offensive side as far as camp goes for the Texans 'cept maybe players vying to be Steve Slaton's backup. We return all 11 starters on offense which is a BIG deal. Between the twenties we were one of the best offenses in the league (3rd in total yards). What the Texans really need to work on is their redzone scoring. Too many turnovers and fieldgoals the offense had to settle for after marching down the field. Kyle Shanahan will take over the playcalling on offense, so training camp will consist of finding better ways for the Texans to cross that goaline more often than not in '09.

This traning camp will mianly be focused on defense, defense, and more defense.

Frank Bush is all about aggression and swarming the ball. The Texans' D needs to create more turnover opportunities and get to the fucking QB. The front seven has a lot of questions going in.

Strongside LB will be Brian Cushing no doubt. The kid is a workout warrior and plays with an edge. He kind of reminds you of Bill Romanowski a little bit. I think he will be a solid player for years who can cover the run very well and drop back in zone coverage.

The middle belongs to DeMeco Ryans and I think this year will be a big year for him considering the help he will have from the Sam and Will positions. DeMeco is an undersized middle, but the dude just has a nose for the ball. Now he will have a lot of athleticism on the outside to let him do what he does best. Tackle the man with the ball.

The weakside LB position looks to be the biggest camp battle this preseason. Zac Diles was the starter before he broke his leg. He started off kind of flat, but eventually improved and played his ass off before his injury. Enter Xavier Adibi and he started to impress, but was getting pushed around in short yardage situations. Durability was an issue for Adibi because he could not keep the weight on. His frame was too lean for a LB. Both are back and healthy. Adibi beefed up to 243 during the offseason and looks poised to take the starting job from Diles. Ah, but wait. Now enter Cato June as the wildcard for this battle. The veteran is a better coverage guy than Adibi and Diles, but he is getting long in the tooth and was not impressive last season with the Bucs. I think Adibi will be the guy to start the season, but it wouldn't surprise me if the Texans decide to keep all three guys and try to move Diles elsewhere.

Now comes the much maligned front four with the exception of Mario Williams. Amobi Okoye needs to show me something this season and maybe we'll see the 21 year old veteran turn a corner this preseason in camp. Antonio Smith was a solid signing by the Texans. Smith can and will accel with a guy like Mario on the other side. Smith provides a solid run stopping ability and I think his sack numbers will increase with the attention Mario gets on the other side. Not only that, but Smith can move inside on passing situations and let highly touted rookie Conner Barwin come in on pass rushing situations. Barwin is raw, but he is an athletic speciman who showed incredible promise during OTAs. Another player taking his job seriously during the offseason was Frank Okam. He trimmed 30 pounds and is poised to grab the starting job on the inside with Okoye. Things are looking up on the front four as depth will be available as well. Bulman, Cochran, Cody, and Travis Johnson all add veteran depth to the front four.

It seems everyone on the national scene is giving no respect to the secondary. They played really well down the stretch when Robinson was introduced back into the starting lineup. He is 100% healthy and will play opposite Jacques Reeves. I'll admit that a lot of you were right about Reeves the first half of the season. He was awful in one-on-one coverage. Often I would see Reeves step-for-step with a receiver but never turned around to find the ball after it was thrown. He would just run with a guy and never put his hands up which turned out to be a reception for the opposition 80% of the time. The second half of the season was so much better. He started deflecting more passes and was locking guys down during series. I am now convinced he can play. I am curious about the progression of 3rd year man Fred Bennett and 2nd year man Antwaun Molden. One of these guys needs to step up as the nickelback. Molden is superfast and made some nice coverage plays on special teams last season, but he needs to improve on his footwork and lateral movement if he wants to take that next step as a corner. Bennett took a step back last season after a promising rookie season. He needs to bounce back and show why he should start over Reeves.

The safeties played okay last season. They were horrible to begin with, but the Texans found a decent combination in Nick Ferguson and Eugene Wilson. The depth is weak, but the emergence of second year man Dominique Barber is a little settling. Should we suffer injuries at the safety position, we could be screwed.

The offense is solid. It's time for the defense to step it up.

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Fri Jul 31, 2009 9:00 am

Nice breakdown on the Tejans, Rumps.

Couple questions:

1. What's the general fan feeling toward Gary Kubiak?

Is there any legit "heat" on him, now going into his 4th season, to produce a winning team?

Is his yob safe, or could he, say if Houston went something like 5-11, get shitcanned?

Myself, I see Houston producing a winning record this year -- playoffs perhaps.

2. Who are the current prominant mouths on the radio these days?

When I left in '06, 610 had Granato and Zierlein in the a.m. -- so-so -- Rome in the midday -- some good moments -- and Lord and VanDerMeer at drive home -- so-so.

C. Palillo (my fav.) jumped over to 740, the Sports Animal haha ... and had a drive home show to rival the 610 show.

Just curious.

Have fun in Vegas, guy.

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Fri Jul 31, 2009 11:07 am

Raider writer Jerry McDonald reports that J. Russell admits he came to camp "a little heavy."

278 lbs is the "unofficial" number I hear.

Why would a 23 yr old QB who isn't coming off an injury and hasn't accomplished jack squat come to camp ... a little heavy?

Big boned?

Lazy?

Uninspired?

Don't get it?

Hey man, there is NO upside to a QB being overweight.

None.

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Sat Aug 01, 2009 12:27 am

It was actually me that posted those pics, SM.

There's no excuse for a young kid who says he wants to be the leader of a team to get that far out of shape in the off-season.

These days the winners know that there really is no "off" season in the NFL.

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Sat Aug 01, 2009 1:17 am

Screw_Michigan wrote: Feel free to contribute your knowledge about Skins football.

I don't give a flying fuck about the deadskins. Wait... I take that back. They might have a few players I need to consider for the auction draft

Or else continue ankle biting me as I kick your ass (and you kick your own ass) up and down this forum.

Ankle biting?

The penultimate BOARD BITCH champion of ankle biting is calling moi an ankle biter? And threatening to kick my ass "up and down this forum"?

Too funny.

All i have to say to that is... pack a lunch.

I've been here and will continue to be here for the duration. If you think a punk like you could run me, then you're even stupider than I thought.

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Sat Aug 01, 2009 6:37 am

Todd Haley: Glenn Dorsey, your fat @ss is OUT of shape. Sit down!

LOL

http://chiefsblog.kansascity.com/?q=node/872

Go Coogs' · Post by **Go Coogs'** » Sun Aug 02, 2009 12:07 am

poptart wrote:1. What's the general fan feeling toward Gary Kubiak?

Winning season or bye-bye. And I'm not sure 9-7 is enough. The schedule is weak and we need to take the next step in the division. None of this 1-5 or 2-4 record within the division anymore. We should AT LEAST go 3-3 or 4-2 this season. That is what the fans are looking for. Better division play will lead to a winning season and a possible playoff bid.

If Kubiak falls short of that, then its time for a change.

2. Who are the current prominant mouths on the radio these days?

Zierlein and Granato split from 610 and started their own station called 1560 The Game. They have the morning show and John Harris and Sean Pendergast have the afternoon drive time show. Both are great programs. Especially during football season.

Palillo still has his own show on in the afternoon/early evening. It's still quality AM radio. His callers actually make decent points. It seems that a cerebral guy like Palillo draws cerebral listeners who know what the fuck they are talking about.

610 has gone through a lot of changes. Vandermeer and Andre Ware were in the mornings, but that wasn't doing so well, then Lord and Matt Jackson had the drive time. They are losing out to the Palillo and Harris/Pendergast. The only thing 610 can hang their hat on is their 6-10pm talk show and the fact that they carry Texans and Rockets games. Should they lose one of their game broadcasting contracts, then that could be the beginning of the end for 610.

How 'bout the Raiders, pop? They made strides towards the end of last season, but it seems the offense still has a lot of questions and JaMarcus might not be progressing as quick as duh the Nation wants him to. The fact that his only workouts during the offseason were the occasional rundown of the icecream truck cannot bode well for him as a leader of this team.

In saying that, if the Raiders secondary can play to their potential, then maybe there is hope for them yet. I don't think it's completely out of the questions for them to finish 7-9 or 8-8. But it all depends on JeMarcus' desire.

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Sun Aug 02, 2009 2:58 am

Thanks for the H-town radio info and your view on Kubiak, Rumps.
Interesting.

The West is soft, so winning games is possible, even for the 'duds.

If the offense struggles with Russell, Garcia will get the nod and the fat boy can watch how a PRO moves the chains.

I'm pulling hard for JaMarcus, but I've got some concerns about him.

stuckinia · Post by **stuckinia** » Sun Aug 02, 2009 10:55 pm

From what I have read so far from training camp:

1 - The defense is going to be bad ass. Haynesworth will be worth every dollar and Orakpo will be one of the Skins best draft picks in years. This D will finally produce sacks and turnovers.

2 - For as good as the D looks, the offense looks like a mtool take, full of suck. The oline is shit. Hopefully, the olinemen are being lined up one-on-one during training camp with no help, because the dline is destroying them. The QBs look as shitty as ever, except for Chase Daniels. He has been impressing with his mechanics and grasp of the offense. At least his supporters are more tolerable than the Cult of Colt freaks. As bad as the O looks, the 2nd year receivers look like they might redeem themselves. Malcolm Kelly, D Thomas, and Fred Davis has been impressive. Throw in Moss and Cooley, the QBs have no excuses for suckage.

Players I would like to see cut: ARE - worst punt returner ever. I would like the Skins WR core to resemble DiS's boy harem, young and hairless. Well...at least young.
Ladell Betts - I cannot stand this schmuk. I do not know why. Maybe because he is a Hawkeye. Maybe because he is always hurt and has a affinity for ill-timed fumbles. I would
love to see a fast change-of-pace back to complement Portis. I would describe Betts as Portis-lite, but he is not that good. He is Portis-zero.
Todd Collins - I would prefer having Brennan and Daniels as backups. If Campbell is shitty, the season is over. I would rather the team rebuild and have a high draft pick than mediocre
crap. How ling is a 38-year old QB going to help the team?

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:23 pm

stuckinia wrote:The QBs look as shitty as ever, except for Chase Daniels. He has been impressing with his mechanics and grasp of the offense.

Wasn't he an undrafted free-agent? I had my doubts that he would ever do more than hold a clipboard in the NFL, if that. He's been doubted his entire career due to his short stature but keeps proving people wrong. Good to hear he's at least getting a look.

Paul · Post by **Paul** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 1:43 am

Glenn Dorsey is FAT and can't pass Todd Haley's conditioning drill.

In other Chiefs camp news, the WRs not named Bobby Engram can't catch a cold much less a pass.

Oh, and Tony Gonzalez is in Atlanta now.

At least we'll still be better than the Broncos....we have THAT going for us, which is nice.

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 4:46 am

The mockers were out in full force when Al Davis used the #5 overall pick of the '09 draft on speedy Maryland wideout, D.H. Bey.

So far Bey has found every way imaginable to ... DROP ... passes thrown his way.

hmmmm ........

Russell is reported to be looking fairly sharp.
Garcia nurses a mild calf strain.

Andrew Walter -- released -- Pats interested, reportedly.

Go Coogs' · Post by **Go Coogs'** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 3:51 pm

Connor Barwin is a freak during pass rush situations. He was a sleeper first round pick last season who fell into the Texans lap in the mid-2nd. Early signs show that Mario finally has some help on the opposite end.

Still no sign of Dunte Robinson who is holding out because the Texans franchised him. Reports say that he is working out every day in Newark, but he needs to get his ass to camp.

There hasn't been much reported about the offense for the first four days of camp. Everything must be going alright on that side of the ball. The only thing I've heard is that the offense had 3 turnovers yesterday morning and they had to run laps.

Grossman is currently beating out Orlovsky in the backup QB battle.

Oh yeah, Andre Johnson looks even better this year. Watch the fuck out.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 4:04 pm

I'm hearing good things about Limas Sweed. That would be a huge bonus if he stepped his game up.

DallasFanatic · Post by **DallasFanatic** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 4:08 pm

poptart wrote:The mockers were out in full force when Al Davis used the #5 overall pick of the '09 draft on speedy Maryland wideout, D.H. Bey.

So far Bey has found every way imaginable to ... DROP ... passes thrown his way.

hmmmm ........

Russell is reported to be looking fairly sharp.
Garcia nurses a mild calf strain.

Andrew Walter -- released -- Pats interested, reportedly.

That didn't take long.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/trainingc ... id=4375788

ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2 · Tue Aug 04, 2009 6:10 pm

poptart wrote:Andrew Walter -- released -- Pats interested, reportedly.

Is this for real, or is this "Michael Vick worked out for the Patriots last week" real?

Neely8 · Post by **Neely8** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 6:15 pm

ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2 wrote:
poptart wrote:Andrew Walter -- released -- Pats interested, reportedly.

Is this for real, or is this "Michael Vick worked out for the Patriots last week" real?

They signed him this morning. I am sure he will be at double sessions today practicing how and at what angle he holds the clipboard.......

Paul · Post by **Paul** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 8:08 pm

Amani Toomer is now a Chief: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... th-chiefs/

Which means one thing....other than Dwayne Bowe the Chiefs' WR corp isn't very good. At least Toomer HAS to be better than Jeff Webb.

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Wed Aug 05, 2009 12:47 am

Rumps wrote:Still no sign of Dunte Robinson who is holding out because the Texans franchised him.

Dunte: Boo hoo hoo ... How dare the Texans pay me $10,000,000 for one season of football!!!

Hey jackoff, get your fuckin' ass to camp.

A. Toomer might have a year-or-two of decent ball in the tank ... maybe.
He'll be nothing great, but he won't hurt ya.
Below average #2, but a decent veteran back-up.

Some say A. Walter never really got a legit shot in Oakland.

You can make that case, but when he got his chance to play he never did show that HE could raise the level of those around him in any way.
He never provided any hint that he could make it as an NFL starter.

His hang dog demeanor didn't do a lot for me, either.

Dead fuckin' fish.

Career back-up, that's it, imo.

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Wed Aug 05, 2009 5:11 am

poptart wrote:Top 3 Camp Issues:

1. O-Line
Sometimes "The Truth" IS the truth, and one of those times was when he warned Raider fan about K. Harris.
Yep, his ineptitude at LT set the tone for a line that just simply didn't get it done.
Again, they blocked well enough (at times) in the run game, but didn't give Russell the time he needed in the passing game.

K. Barnes is brought in and will compete with 3rd rd pick from a few years back, M. Henderson for the LT spot.
The "loser" will likely man the RT spot and C. Green will become depth ... which is a good thang.
E. Pears and was also brought in, and there are other faces to compete.
At center, J. Grove is replaced by S. Satele.
This MUST be an upgrade.

This unit must come together and they must perform.

err .....

K. Barnes was dinged today.
Ankle.
Report is he's out 4-6 weeks.

Well, Henderson is our left tackle.

Pears, Green or McUgly at RT ... until Barnes is up to speed again, although Barnes at RT is a TRANSITION for him and he may not be that comfortable with it.

Damn ...

Paul · Post by **Paul** » Wed Aug 05, 2009 5:24 pm

Apparently Glenn Dorsey finally passed Haley's performance/endurance test, and is now practicing with the team....I still question placing him at DE, but until they get into a real game to find out if he can do his job nobody knows for sure.

Go Coogs' · Post by **Go Coogs'** » Thu Aug 06, 2009 6:26 pm

Starting CB Jacques Reeves out 6-8 weeks with a fractured fibula.

Starting C Chris Meyers out indefinitely with a high ankle sprain.

Maybe Reeves will return to full speed by game 6. I'm hopeful. Meyers' high ankle sprain concerns me. Those can last the entire season.

DallasFanatic · Post by **DallasFanatic** » Thu Aug 06, 2009 8:27 pm

Go Coogs' wrote:Starting CB Jacques Reeves out 6-8 weeks with a fractured fibula.

Starting C Chris Meyers out indefinitely with a high ankle sprain.

Maybe Reeves will return to full speed by game 6. I'm hopeful. Meyers' high ankle sprain concerns me. Those can last the entire season.

If you are counting on Reeve's in your secondary, than you are in bad shape.

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:44 am

Raiders trade D. Burgess to the Patsies for ... draft picks -- unclear.

3rd in '10 and a 5th in '11, it is reported -- but talk of compensation being conditional based on Burgess' performance.

Burgess CAN get after the QB, when healthy.
He's not been able to do his thang very well for the past 2-3 years.
He's a below average run defender.

He wanted to get paid, he's not a kid anymore, his performace has dropped off, he's been hurt, he's not been a happy camper, Ellis brought in from Dallas.

Buh bye.

I'm still hoping to hear of DT help on the way for the Raiduhs.

Neely8 · Post by **Neely8** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 2:51 pm

Looks like they plan to use him as an outside LB in the 3-4. Taking the place of Vrabel I am guessing. In Bill we trust........

packwin13 · Post by **packwin13** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 6:21 pm

Three things I have been keeping an eye on at Packers camp are......

1) The switch to the 3-4 defense. The defense had a pretty rough year and were especially horrid on 3rd down. A linebacking unit of Kampman, Barnett (who should be healthy for the regular season after missing most of last year with a knee injury), Hawk, and Matthews looks pretty good on paper. Top pick Raji is still a hold out, but it will be interesting to see how quickly the unit gels with the new schemes. I'm looking forward to the preseason games to see how they actually fare in live game situations. They've looked pretty good as a unit in camp so far.

2) Punting. The Packers cut Frost with four games to go last year because he stunk it up so bad, and still haven't found a replacement. The two guys they have at camp have been marginal at best. I'm expecting Ted Thompson to find a waiver wire guy when the rosters get trimmed down to fill this spot. If not, the Packers aren't going to win many field position battles this year.

3) Ryan Grant. A hamstring injury slowed him for the first half of 2008, and he lacked the "home run" ability last season. He did rush for over 1000 yards, but he didn't play nearly as well as he did in the second half of 2007. There are going to be a couple of new starters on the o-line this year (the battles are still pretty close, so no clear starters have emerged) and that may make things even more difficult for him. He'll more than likely need to find ways to create yardage on his own for the first few games until the line meshes together a little bit.

Paul · Post by **Paul** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 7:48 pm

Tyson Jackson is IN: http://myespn.go.com/blogs/afcwest/0-3- ... -done.html

He's got some catching up to do- this kid Magee the Chiefs picked in the 3rd round is performing WELL at DE so far in camp. At the very least he'll most likely take a lot of playing time away from Dorsey.

RJ · Post by RJ » Fri Aug 07, 2009 8:10 pm

Neely8 wrote: In Sony Handcams we trust........

Fixed you insufferable chowd assfuck.

You puffed fucksocks havent won a thing since you were popped McFly style by the speeding NFL car and made to give up nonstop peepshows. You'll be Bill's Cleveland Brown team soon enough......they're already halfway to that destination with thier penchant for snagging up former shit Raiders who've proven to be unproductive and cancerous. Moss is the only exception to this, and even his time is drawing near in these next few years. Thanks for the 3rd and 5th for a non-existant run stopper who's long in the tooth, injury prone, and didnt produce dick these last 2 years when he actually saw playing time.

Fuck you and the rest of your waddling, see through pasty ass least coast cream filled hungry hungry hippo ilk. Now get the door, its Dominoes you fucking Spicy Porkrind.

Billy Pilgrim · Post by **Billy Pilgrim** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 8:28 pm

RJ wrote: A tale posted by an idiot; full of sound and fury ... signifying nothing.

I like you, Betty.

ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2 · Sat Aug 08, 2009 12:05 am

RJ wrote:You puffed fucksocks havent won a thing since..................

Yeah, we get it. NE hasn't won a Super Bowl since pre "Spygate" and only won 11 games last year, which coincidentally, is more than your shit franchise won in the previous 3 seasons... combined.

NE will make the playoffs this season and is one a handful of teams that has a shot at a Super Bowl this year. Meanwhile, the fucking Raiders will be looking to break the 5 win plateau for the first time in recent memory. Your team is an embarrassment. You won't be seen in this forum from Oct until next year's draft when you're the melting over Al Zheimer's "strategy" in picking yet another really fast dude who can't play a lick. Yeah, a WR who can't catch. Makes total fucking sense. I can't wait. What will smell worse... Al Zheimer's diaper or the shitty fucking pick he wastes in 2010?

I look forward to your posts over the next month and half... you'll be missed.

stuckinia · Post by **stuckinia** » Sun Aug 09, 2009 3:39 am

Billy Pilgrim wrote:
RJ wrote: A tale posted by an idiot; full of sound and fury ... signifying nothing.
I like you, Betty.

How cute. Another Pats fan. Unfortunately, with absolutely nothing to offer. Make sure you take the tags off your Fred Taylor jersey sport.

stuckinia · Post by **stuckinia** » Sun Aug 09, 2009 3:39 am

mvscal wrote:
stuckinia wrote: Haynesworth will be worth every dollar
I laughed. Has he ever finished a complete season?

12-13 games is a success. And yes, my standards are low.

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Sun Aug 09, 2009 5:23 am

James wrote:they're (NE) already halfway to that destination with thier penchant for snagging up former shit Raiders who've proven to be unproductive and cancerous. Moss is the only exception to this

This is a actually a very good take.

Al get's hammered in the media, and of course with the teams he's fielded over the past 6 years and the hard-ons built up for him over the years ... it's expected, BUT, Al has shown a keen eye for knowing when to fold 'em on a lot of players.

What recent "good" Raider player, other than Moss, has done much of anything after leaving Oakland?

Tyler Brayton in Carolina? Nope.
Fabian Washington in B'more? Nope.
Grady Jackson in GB, ATL, etc.... Nope.
Eric Barton in NY. Mediocre.
Doug Jolly in NY. Nope
Blowtime Buchanan in Houston, TB, etc.... Nope.
Doug Gabriel in NE? Nope.

Every one of these slugs performed better in Oakland ... prior to Mr Davis dumping their @sses.

Good fuggen luck with Andrew Walter and Gimpy Burgess, chowds. har har

Al dumped on ya, me bets.

Oakland's got a real interesting group of young receivers and skill players.

REAL interesting.

Bang on us now, because the worm is turning.