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i forgot how underrated...

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 2:57 pm
by Moby Dick
GnR's "Appetite" or however the hell you spell it, is.

i was going thru some CDs to put in to pump me up....grabbed pantera,metallica, AC/DC, zep..and then stumbled across Appetite..

WAR that fucking album...

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 4:54 pm
by Dinsdale
At the risk of a pile-on, I must strongly agree.

GnR never did shit after that, but they had that one glorious moment.

Moby, if I remember right, you're younger(my memory often fails, though, so correct me if I'm wrong).

That album was a lot more significant than you can probably imagine, if you're a young'un.

The music scene took a turn through the early 80's, a turn for the much-worse. With MTV's appearance in 1981, and the propagation of cable tv throughout the country, the emphasis became different. Up until that point, music had primarily became about who had the best, or at least broadest-appealing sound. MTV quikly changed that to put the emphasis on who looked the best, looked unique, had shock value, or gave you a woodrow. The days of Mama Cass and Janis Joplin were forever gone, and the advent of the talentless, like Madonna, was upon us.

BUT -- not everyone fell for the bubblegum pop/whiney hottie scam. And some found the "New Wave" to be kinda........gay. But, those big record execs, scooping greedily with their newfound gravy-ladel weren't stupid -- they came out with Buttrock, which pretty much came down to which good-looking dudes could grow their hair the fastest. From about 1981-1987, talent was a complete non-factor in mainstream music.

But along came a band that didn't fit in to any of that. Not quite a punk band, not quite a hair band, not quite anything.....except heavy and doped-up. They probably would have gotten absolutely nowhere, but the good people of SoCal were so supportive, the evil record industry had to take notice.

If I'm not mistaken, Appetite is still the #1 selling debut album ever. For us long-hair, Lost Generation, directionless souls who were so disaffected from the Cold War threats and the Reagan lies and watching our lower-middle class families slide into the sewer of "trickle-down economics," GnR was a ray of hope. That generation embraced that band that was just a drugged-out as we were at the time.

GnR didn't give a shit about what the record companies had to say. They, like Sinatra, did it their way. And they were the major part of breaking the diecast mold that the record giants had everyone locked into.

Whether you like their music or not, every music fan owes GnR a big "thank you."

Ahhhhhh, the good old days of the mid/late 80's. Promiscuity reigned supreme. I doinked so many chicks while Appetite For Destruction was playing, it'd make YOUR dick sore if I started listing them. Then, I settled down with a girl named Michelle, who was also a big GnR fan. She wasn't a porn starring junky-btw.

Good memories. Imma gonna bust out that disk, and give it a listen today, thanks to you, Moby. Actually, I'll probably wait until I've had a few brews, so I can get the proper air-guitar moves going. Back in the day, I'd wow the honies with my bitchin-smooth Axl Rose impression. Enough beer and cigarettes, anyone can sound just like Axl.


RACK Appetite.

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 5:06 pm
by BSmack
Dins,

I agree 100%. Appetite threatened to make music real again. There was not a bad song on that album. Too bad G&R decided to have a vaginoplasty after that.

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 5:25 pm
by Moby Dick
rack dinsdale.

yea, i was in 5th grade when that album came out..i was living in a decent sized town in Georgia when all the kids were wearing jean jackets with "Guns N Roses" iron ons on the back...i never really got to listen to hard rock/metal when i was a kid...i was the oldest of 3 kids, so i had no outside influence on my when it came to music...about the hardest it ever got was CCR or The Beatles my dad had on in the car...

anyhow..i remember the first time i heard that tape on teh busride home...holy shit :shock:

then 2 yrs later, i was back in oklahoma and my buddy was trying to get me to listen to a new tape he got ...i remember putting those headphones on in the gym......the tape had a naked baby in a pool diving for a dollar bill....when i heard the beginning to "Smells like teen spirit"...i thought instantly of Welcome to the Jungle....

man...since 1975...NO other 2 songs in RnR has a more powerful entrance than Welcome to the Jungle , and Smells like Teen Spirit.

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 5:46 pm
by BSmack
Moby Dick wrote:man...since 1975...NO other 2 songs in RnR has a more powerful entrance than Welcome to the Jungle , and Smells like Teen Spirit.
Now I agree with you about Appetite, but that is just crazy talk.

Off the top of my head, here's some other songs that can be included in that conversation.

Back In Black
Crazy Train
Shout At The Devil
For Whom The Bell Tolls
Who Are You
God Save the Queen

The list could be endless.

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 5:51 pm
by Moby Dick
BSmack wrote:
Moby Dick wrote:man...since 1975...NO other 2 songs in RnR has a more powerful entrance than Welcome to the Jungle , and Smells like Teen Spirit.
Now I agree with you about Appetite, but that is just crazy talk.

Off the top of my head, here's some other songs that can be included in that conversation.

Back In Black
Crazy Train
Shout At The Devil
For Whom The Bell Tolls
Who Are You
God Save the Queen

The list could be endless.
i see your point, i guess i was typing faster than i was thinking...

there were a few metallica songs i was thinking about when i was thinking about it...
ACDC Razor's Edge...pretty damned sweet as well.

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 6:04 pm
by Dinsdale
Gotta go with BSmack.

Pretty much any of Metallica's epics.

God Save The Queen......now there's a band that fought off the record execs early attempts at turning the business to cookie-cutter bullshit. Just read a retrospective about how here in Portland, in 1976, the local "cool" record store was overwhelmed one monday morning with people looking for Sex Pistols records. Turns out Parade magazine, source of all things pop-culture back then, for those not in cities named New York Los Angeles, or San Francisco, had an article warning parents to not let their kids listen to this new "punk-rock" music that the Pistols embodied. I guess even the hipcats at the coolio record store had never heard of them, since they were too cool to read Parade.

Iron Maiden got pretty serious with Number of the Beast

I'll think of a whole bunch more songs with bigger-than-life intros, but I'm coming up empty for the moment.

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 6:07 pm
by Dinsdale
Moby Dick wrote: ACDC Razor's Edge...pretty damned sweet as well.
That came after Back in Black, right?

No good. Won't own it. Hell, only reason I ever had Back in Black was because it was a good, high-energy tribute to the Poet. Brian Johnson sucks much ass.

Since we're walking down memory lane -- anybody still have one of those life-size old posters of Angus, where he's got the two solid streams of blood shooting out of each nostril while he's jamming? Things weren't quite so PC back then, and open drug use was tolerated a little more, eh? That was a cool freaking poster.

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 6:10 pm
by Moby Dick
Dinsdale wrote:
Moby Dick wrote: ACDC Razor's Edge...pretty damned sweet as well.
That came after Back in Black, right?

No good. Won't own it. Hell, only reason I ever had Back in Black was because it was a good, high-energy tribute to the Poet. Brian Johnson sucks much ass.

Since we're walking down memory lane -- anybody still have one of those life-size old posters of Angus, where he's got the two solid streams of blood shooting out of each nostril while he's jamming? Things weren't quite so PC back then, and open drug use was tolerated a little more, eh? That was a cool freaking poster.
the razor's edge is a pretty decent album...

oddly enough the soundtrack to The Last Action Hero is pretty damned good too...

also another memorable opening to a song, Megadeth's -Symphony of Destruction

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 6:13 pm
by Dinsdale
There you go -- Johnny Q by the Crazy 8's had an all-time cool intro. Unfortunately, my link doesn't have the intro.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/clips ... 88-6906510

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 6:33 pm
by BSmack
Dinsdale wrote:
Moby Dick wrote: ACDC Razor's Edge...pretty damned sweet as well.
That came after Back in Black, right?

No good. Won't own it. Hell, only reason I ever had Back in Black was because it was a good, high-energy tribute to the Poet. Brian Johnson sucks much ass.

Since we're walking down memory lane -- anybody still have one of those life-size old posters of Angus, where he's got the two solid streams of blood shooting out of each nostril while he's jamming? Things weren't quite so PC back then, and open drug use was tolerated a little more, eh? That was a cool freaking poster.
For Those About To Rock wasn't half bad. After that they jumped the shark big time.