Starts Friday.
Yeah, this should be nice and fair. The Blazers starting lineup looks like Oden, Aldridge, McRoberts, Martell Webster, and Sergio Rodriguez.
Uhm, yeah. The Las Vegas Review should be fairly evenly contested. Because let me tell you, after dropping a 29/17 night, LaMarcus definitely needs to hone his skills in Vegas. Martell pretty much mopped up on all of the other 2's last year, so I think he'll hold his own. Sergio led the entire league in assists-per-minute for most of the last season(and I'm pretty sure held a wide margin in turnovers-per-minute, too).
I'm thinking the Blazers might be throwing out some serious scrubs by game 5.
The rest of the NBA is in so much trouble, it's silly.
I guess Rashard signed with Orlando this morning. In the East, a real center coupled with a real scorer is generally good for a high playoff seed. I think Orlando did good with that one. The Blazers are looking at some serious salary cap problems, and with the Coming of Oden, all of a sudden that big name free agent small forward that was a given is all of a sudden becoming unrealistic. That's OK, we can go into battle just fine with what we've got. OK, actually not "what we've got." Both of our small forwards from last year are free agents, but I look for Ime Udoka to return, barring a major fuckup by his agent. There's only one ball, and Key-To-The-City Udoka doesn't care if he chucks it 20 times or none. We may end up re-signing Travis Outlaw, you never know. I don't think the rest of the league thinks Travis is as good as Travis thinks he is. There's only one ball, and Travis is apparently good enough at math to realize if he doesn't shoot it every time he touches it, he doesn't put up superstar scoring numbers.
We'll see how James Jones works out.
Anybody need a point gaurd? We've got about 100 of them, distributed around the world.
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WolverineSteve
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I would think that Oden would be held out of summer ball. Makes no sense to risk the franchise in a meaningless exercise. I always thought the summer league was for guys on the bubble and undrafted bastards to try and score a deal.
"Gentlemen, it is better to have died as a small boy than to fumble this football."
-John Heisman
"Any street urchin can shout applause in victory, but it takes character to stand fast in defeat. One is noise --- the other, loyalty." Fielding Yost
Go Blue!
-John Heisman
"Any street urchin can shout applause in victory, but it takes character to stand fast in defeat. One is noise --- the other, loyalty." Fielding Yost
Go Blue!
To an extent, yes. But, when a team has a lot of new players, it's nice to get them some time together, and get the team spirit started early.
I think Oden is playing for Team USA this summer, too. I guess the thought of injury risk doesn't sound as bad with Nate McMillan being a coach for Team USA, too.
I think as a general rule, established teams(like your Pistons, for example) are going to put serious scrubs to Vegas. The younger and less experienced the team, the more of their "bigger names are going to be playing in Vegas, as a general rule.
First time in a long time that I'm just as stoked about hoops as I am for CFB this time of year.
I think Oden is playing for Team USA this summer, too. I guess the thought of injury risk doesn't sound as bad with Nate McMillan being a coach for Team USA, too.
I think as a general rule, established teams(like your Pistons, for example) are going to put serious scrubs to Vegas. The younger and less experienced the team, the more of their "bigger names are going to be playing in Vegas, as a general rule.
First time in a long time that I'm just as stoked about hoops as I am for CFB this time of year.
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You know you're fired up when you're following summer ball.
Tayshaun is playing team usa ball. I don't like it, he needs the rest after 5 straight deep playoff runs. But I doubt he'll get big mins. anyhow.
Tayshaun is playing team usa ball. I don't like it, he needs the rest after 5 straight deep playoff runs. But I doubt he'll get big mins. anyhow.
"Gentlemen, it is better to have died as a small boy than to fumble this football."
-John Heisman
"Any street urchin can shout applause in victory, but it takes character to stand fast in defeat. One is noise --- the other, loyalty." Fielding Yost
Go Blue!
-John Heisman
"Any street urchin can shout applause in victory, but it takes character to stand fast in defeat. One is noise --- the other, loyalty." Fielding Yost
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Dude, Tayshaun is a professional freaking athlete. He only needs about a week of "rest."
You want to know why he'll be out there "risking it?"
Because he isn't a pussy, and he lives to compete.
The fact you don't want one of your own to represent USA basketball because you're afraid for his "health" speaks volumes to your pussification.
I could understand where you're coming from if Tayshaun signed up for a Mechanical Bull Riding leauge, but this is Olympic basketball for chrissakes. Grow a pair.
You want to know why he'll be out there "risking it?"
Because he isn't a pussy, and he lives to compete.
The fact you don't want one of your own to represent USA basketball because you're afraid for his "health" speaks volumes to your pussification.
I could understand where you're coming from if Tayshaun signed up for a Mechanical Bull Riding leauge, but this is Olympic basketball for chrissakes. Grow a pair.
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The more you post, the more obvious it is that you know shit about being an athlete. If you don't think athletes wear down after logging massive minutes over prolonged periods of time, you are, well, as dumb as you've proved on these boards all along.
On another note, Team USA hoops is a joke. I don't really care if he plays on the squad, and would prefer he saved his best for the team I root for. What does the "whatever non-olympic international BB tourney" mean to anyone? Fuggit. The Olympics, maybe. Intl. hoops hasn't meant shit since they ruined it with pros.
On another note, Team USA hoops is a joke. I don't really care if he plays on the squad, and would prefer he saved his best for the team I root for. What does the "whatever non-olympic international BB tourney" mean to anyone? Fuggit. The Olympics, maybe. Intl. hoops hasn't meant shit since they ruined it with pros.
"Gentlemen, it is better to have died as a small boy than to fumble this football."
-John Heisman
"Any street urchin can shout applause in victory, but it takes character to stand fast in defeat. One is noise --- the other, loyalty." Fielding Yost
Go Blue!
-John Heisman
"Any street urchin can shout applause in victory, but it takes character to stand fast in defeat. One is noise --- the other, loyalty." Fielding Yost
Go Blue!
I don't think I've ever spent any time watching a summer league game. I do see where some of the games will be webcast through nba.com. Some others might be broadcast ny nba tv, and or FSNE (Fox Sports NE). That channel was 620 on direct tv, I believe.
Anybody seen a game via a webcast, does it stream smooth? This year has a lot of domestic and foreign players with noted talents--I'll probably watch a few of the games.
Rip City
Anybody seen a game via a webcast, does it stream smooth? This year has a lot of domestic and foreign players with noted talents--I'll probably watch a few of the games.
Rip City
http://boss.streamos.com/wmedia-live/nb ... 051201.asx
Memphis vs. Team China.
Somebody somewhere found a way to hack into the feed. I had to read the Blazers message board for links.
I'll repost the Blazer one later if it shows up.
Rip City
Memphis vs. Team China.
Somebody somewhere found a way to hack into the feed. I had to read the Blazers message board for links.
I'll repost the Blazer one later if it shows up.
Rip City
I think the 10 foul limit is pretty gax. The summer league is designed for teams to see how well their rookies (sometimes up to 2 years experience etc) are doing and how well they compare to others at this stage.
I'd like the league to adopt a policy that the refs need to let the kids play as who wants to see 150 free throw shots during a 40 minute game? I wasn't surprised at all that Durant and Oden had ugly games. I watched all of the first days games either by a hacked URL addy and or FSN NE. I wasn't even surprised that LMA was unstoppable. Guy was a beast on both ends of the floor. A man against kids.
Oden has been sick for awhile with his sinus infection and supposedly he'll have his tonsils removed in the near future. You stick him in a gym, let him get healthy and get him in shape and you'll probably see Oden refer back to this game and laugh.
I'm not laughing yet, but hopefully I can laugh last.
Rip City
I'd like the league to adopt a policy that the refs need to let the kids play as who wants to see 150 free throw shots during a 40 minute game? I wasn't surprised at all that Durant and Oden had ugly games. I watched all of the first days games either by a hacked URL addy and or FSN NE. I wasn't even surprised that LMA was unstoppable. Guy was a beast on both ends of the floor. A man against kids.
Oden has been sick for awhile with his sinus infection and supposedly he'll have his tonsils removed in the near future. You stick him in a gym, let him get healthy and get him in shape and you'll probably see Oden refer back to this game and laugh.
I'm not laughing yet, but hopefully I can laugh last.
Rip City
Yeah, he's a bust. Let's just forget about a whole different style of officiating, the fact dude's barely touched a basketball in the last month, and let's certainly forget that dude is suffering from a nasty case of tonsilitis, which he's postponing dealing with until the newly-hectic summer schedule settles down a bit, and the tonsilitis is leading to severe sinus infection after severe sinus infection.
But if you toss those factors out, he's looking like a major bust. Unlike that other pick, who jacked up about 100 shots in a summer league game, and hit about 3 of them, which he shrugged off with "you can't hit them all." Yeah, it would be nice if you hit a third of them, though.
Yup...
Oden = BUST
Durant = BUST
So much for that lottery jackpot.
I actually watched that game(found the link, Luth). Sure, the obviously illness-weary Oden was a little off on offense. What that boxscore won't tell you is how terrified Boston's scrubs were when Almighty was back on D. They had a couple of 4-on-1 fastbreaks, and they just pulled up and stopped and dropped into halfcourt sets. Remind me which column of the stats sheet they put that in?
Again -- they bailed out on 4-on-1 breaks because they were terrified of one defender.
And what part of that boxscore shows how misreably the Blazer gaurds played, with a complete inability to get Oden the ball down low(Nate McMillan isn't coaching the Vegas team, which makes a good tuneup for the assistants, but they just need more time)? If you actually saw the game, when either Oden got the ball low(rare), or even when he looked like he was setting up on the low block, he drew 3-4 defenders every time. If we're just going off the boxscore, see if you can suss out how the double/triple/quadruple teams worked out for LaMarcus.
LaMarcus, who is easily the best player in Vegas, took advantage of all the attention given to Oden, and very quietly went off for 27/11/3bs.
If the right hand don't get you, the left hand will(bonus points for anyone who can identify which NBA player(s) coined that phrase while tag-teaming a position on a Championship team).
I don't think the league realizes the holy terror that LMA is about to unleash on the NBA. Memo to fantasy geeks -- Aldridge might be the steal of a fantasy draft, unless you're playing with Blazerfans, who will scoop him up before the second round is over.
And when these guys start playing with Brandon ROY and Jarrett Jack instead of the scrubbies(Oden wasn't the disappointment last night -- Sergio Rodriguez was), Oden will be seeing the ball on the low block...count on that. And Oden and LMA fighting over who got to swat shots into the cheap seats... that was pretty money... DON'T BRING THAT IN HERE, PUSSY!
Oden has stepped into such enormous shoes, it's going to take a while before he gets used to walking around in them... that was kind of a given before any of the summer stuff even started. Although if that offensive rebound and putback throwdown was any indication of things to come...
Yeahhhhhh, buddy. Oden has a contract as the Spalding ball/backboard rep(along with Agent Oh-Fer). I'm guessing by the end of this season, their ad campaign might revolve around "Greg Oden, official product tester for Spalding backboards." Highest percentage shot since the advent of the Shaq Attack. Just get out of the way of that shit.
In the "BTW" column -- There were a couple of bright spots. Joel Freeland, who was one of Portland's 4 first rounders last year, looked pretty decent. Big English dude, who had just taken up the sport of basketball a few months before he was drafted. A year in the Euro leagues has obviously helped a bunch, and he was looking pretty darn good for what he is... a zero-cost project. He had the same ferocious defense of the lane that Aldridge and Oden did. He showed a few decent moves in the low post. Looking like a very good draft pick from last year, considering the circumstances. Might be time for a move from Europe to the D-League, just in case we get thin at the big... not likely with the current roster. Too many good bigs is a nice problem to have, and makes filling needs MUCH easier at the trade deadline.
Taurean Green suprised me. He didn't do anything special, impressive, or frankly, annything particularly well on offense...kind of the opposite, actually. But he played extremely good defense for a 1st year guy. Another guy who could be quite the asset after a year in the D-League. He's definitely a "ball hound." We like those guys.
And then there's Martell Webster... the high school kid we took over Derron Williams and Chris Paul. Martell, Martell, Martell... what are we gonna do with you? Last night's game was Martell -in-a-nutshell -- either brilliant or horrible, subject to change from one minute to the next. Seemed like a great pick at the time at #6(traded #3 to Utah for #6 and some other bullshit). Little did we know that Martell seems to suffer from a bit of the bipolar disorder, which he carries onto the court with him. Dude's either dropping jumpers in your face and damaging the bottom of the net at will, or he's worthless -- no middle ground there. Dammit, Martell -- it's going into year #3, time for you to shit or get off the pot. And everybody in town likes the guy so darn much, and his personality fits in so well with the anti-jailblazers, he needs to step it up. Got that textbook/picture-perfect pretty jump shot, and has no idea how to go about getting it going in the game. And his lateral speed on D sucks, and there's some 2's and 3's in the league that might try to take advantage of that...maybe.
On the other side of the ball -- Anyone who follows such things knows that Summer League makes high school games look well-structured and perfectly executed. That's just the way things always have been, are now, and probably always will be. That said -- remind me to never bet against Gerald Green in a game of ratball. Too bad that with the ultra-chuckers Boston is putting out there this season, he won't be able to do his thing effectively. If I'm a GM needing a spark-plug at the 2/3, I'm trying to join the large club that's gotten over on Ainge and trying to make a deal. Sure, it was just summer ball, but I have a hunch that Gerald can score on anybody at will in an open, up-and-down game. Would make a heck of a reserve for Phoenix...or a replacement for one of the most overrated players in the league, Raja Bell. WTF... if a guy can't make a shot, they call him a "defensive specialist," which prompts the ignorant east coast media to vote him in for defensive honors...whatever. For one thing, Ime Udoka is a better defender at the same spot as Bell(and Ime BETTER re-sign with Portland). For another, I'm not sure why they call him a "defensive specialist" when he gets lit up for 35 every time he goes up against a decent scorer. And for another -- when you play straight up, unadulterated run-and-gun(get a shot up in 6 seconds or less...nice strategy), what do you need a second-rate "defensive specialist" who can't make a basket? I guess to make up for the PG/MVP who plays ZERO defense. Tough to stop your opponent when your defending 5 wuith 4... Nash is a freaking magician on offense, and is probably THE WORST defensive player in the NBA... just terrible. Anyhoo, Gerald Green seems like he'd a be great fit for that team.
Is it the regular season yet?
But if you toss those factors out, he's looking like a major bust. Unlike that other pick, who jacked up about 100 shots in a summer league game, and hit about 3 of them, which he shrugged off with "you can't hit them all." Yeah, it would be nice if you hit a third of them, though.
Yup...
Oden = BUST
Durant = BUST
So much for that lottery jackpot.
I actually watched that game(found the link, Luth). Sure, the obviously illness-weary Oden was a little off on offense. What that boxscore won't tell you is how terrified Boston's scrubs were when Almighty was back on D. They had a couple of 4-on-1 fastbreaks, and they just pulled up and stopped and dropped into halfcourt sets. Remind me which column of the stats sheet they put that in?
Again -- they bailed out on 4-on-1 breaks because they were terrified of one defender.
And what part of that boxscore shows how misreably the Blazer gaurds played, with a complete inability to get Oden the ball down low(Nate McMillan isn't coaching the Vegas team, which makes a good tuneup for the assistants, but they just need more time)? If you actually saw the game, when either Oden got the ball low(rare), or even when he looked like he was setting up on the low block, he drew 3-4 defenders every time. If we're just going off the boxscore, see if you can suss out how the double/triple/quadruple teams worked out for LaMarcus.
LaMarcus, who is easily the best player in Vegas, took advantage of all the attention given to Oden, and very quietly went off for 27/11/3bs.
If the right hand don't get you, the left hand will(bonus points for anyone who can identify which NBA player(s) coined that phrase while tag-teaming a position on a Championship team).
I don't think the league realizes the holy terror that LMA is about to unleash on the NBA. Memo to fantasy geeks -- Aldridge might be the steal of a fantasy draft, unless you're playing with Blazerfans, who will scoop him up before the second round is over.
And when these guys start playing with Brandon ROY and Jarrett Jack instead of the scrubbies(Oden wasn't the disappointment last night -- Sergio Rodriguez was), Oden will be seeing the ball on the low block...count on that. And Oden and LMA fighting over who got to swat shots into the cheap seats... that was pretty money... DON'T BRING THAT IN HERE, PUSSY!
Oden has stepped into such enormous shoes, it's going to take a while before he gets used to walking around in them... that was kind of a given before any of the summer stuff even started. Although if that offensive rebound and putback throwdown was any indication of things to come...
Yeahhhhhh, buddy. Oden has a contract as the Spalding ball/backboard rep(along with Agent Oh-Fer). I'm guessing by the end of this season, their ad campaign might revolve around "Greg Oden, official product tester for Spalding backboards." Highest percentage shot since the advent of the Shaq Attack. Just get out of the way of that shit.
In the "BTW" column -- There were a couple of bright spots. Joel Freeland, who was one of Portland's 4 first rounders last year, looked pretty decent. Big English dude, who had just taken up the sport of basketball a few months before he was drafted. A year in the Euro leagues has obviously helped a bunch, and he was looking pretty darn good for what he is... a zero-cost project. He had the same ferocious defense of the lane that Aldridge and Oden did. He showed a few decent moves in the low post. Looking like a very good draft pick from last year, considering the circumstances. Might be time for a move from Europe to the D-League, just in case we get thin at the big... not likely with the current roster. Too many good bigs is a nice problem to have, and makes filling needs MUCH easier at the trade deadline.
Taurean Green suprised me. He didn't do anything special, impressive, or frankly, annything particularly well on offense...kind of the opposite, actually. But he played extremely good defense for a 1st year guy. Another guy who could be quite the asset after a year in the D-League. He's definitely a "ball hound." We like those guys.
And then there's Martell Webster... the high school kid we took over Derron Williams and Chris Paul. Martell, Martell, Martell... what are we gonna do with you? Last night's game was Martell -in-a-nutshell -- either brilliant or horrible, subject to change from one minute to the next. Seemed like a great pick at the time at #6(traded #3 to Utah for #6 and some other bullshit). Little did we know that Martell seems to suffer from a bit of the bipolar disorder, which he carries onto the court with him. Dude's either dropping jumpers in your face and damaging the bottom of the net at will, or he's worthless -- no middle ground there. Dammit, Martell -- it's going into year #3, time for you to shit or get off the pot. And everybody in town likes the guy so darn much, and his personality fits in so well with the anti-jailblazers, he needs to step it up. Got that textbook/picture-perfect pretty jump shot, and has no idea how to go about getting it going in the game. And his lateral speed on D sucks, and there's some 2's and 3's in the league that might try to take advantage of that...maybe.
On the other side of the ball -- Anyone who follows such things knows that Summer League makes high school games look well-structured and perfectly executed. That's just the way things always have been, are now, and probably always will be. That said -- remind me to never bet against Gerald Green in a game of ratball. Too bad that with the ultra-chuckers Boston is putting out there this season, he won't be able to do his thing effectively. If I'm a GM needing a spark-plug at the 2/3, I'm trying to join the large club that's gotten over on Ainge and trying to make a deal. Sure, it was just summer ball, but I have a hunch that Gerald can score on anybody at will in an open, up-and-down game. Would make a heck of a reserve for Phoenix...or a replacement for one of the most overrated players in the league, Raja Bell. WTF... if a guy can't make a shot, they call him a "defensive specialist," which prompts the ignorant east coast media to vote him in for defensive honors...whatever. For one thing, Ime Udoka is a better defender at the same spot as Bell(and Ime BETTER re-sign with Portland). For another, I'm not sure why they call him a "defensive specialist" when he gets lit up for 35 every time he goes up against a decent scorer. And for another -- when you play straight up, unadulterated run-and-gun(get a shot up in 6 seconds or less...nice strategy), what do you need a second-rate "defensive specialist" who can't make a basket? I guess to make up for the PG/MVP who plays ZERO defense. Tough to stop your opponent when your defending 5 wuith 4... Nash is a freaking magician on offense, and is probably THE WORST defensive player in the NBA... just terrible. Anyhoo, Gerald Green seems like he'd a be great fit for that team.
Is it the regular season yet?
I got 99 problems but the 'vid ain't one
Well, it's not like he got in foul trouble and hurt his team in a playoff game. It's not like he was fucking retarded and got off the bench during an altercation in a playoff game. It's not like after 5 years in, he has no freaking idea where he's supposed to be positioned on defense, resulting in dumb foul after dumb foul, which has him on the pine when the game is on the line.
Nope, Oden didn't do any of those things... that was YOUR guy.
I've never seen anyone bail out on a 4-on-1 break because Amare was standing there. Amare's place on the All-Star team is going to be claimed by someone else very shortly.
Actually, Oldman has been sick as a dog. I know the coaches want Oden and Aldridge to gel, which is why Aldridge is in Vegas in the first place(LMA really has nothing to prove at the Vegas-level), but if the tonsilitis is that bad, I'd just as soon see everyone involved say "screw summer ball, and screw the Team USA mini-camp." Dude should just go to the hospital, get the tonsils out, and start getting healthy, rather than kill himself in scrimmages. It's a nice idea on paper, but Oden is going to be in the NBA for a looooooong time, so let's get the guy up to full health and get on with it.
And since LMA showed us nothing we didn't already know, and since Oden is looking like the Walking Undead, and since LMA's only function in Vegas is to gel with Oldman and show him the ropes... sit LaMarcus down for the remaining 4 games, too. Or he can be working his mojo with ROY at the practice facility(ROY is in Vegas as a spectator/wannabe coach/moral supporter). Give Freeland Oden's summer job, and give McRoberts LMA's job. At this point, I don't think playing GO and LMA is doing anything terribly productive. Then again, they don't pay me millions of dollars to make those decisions. I also understand that the Blazers want to get their PR=Superstar in the public eye as much as possible over the next 3-4 months. But if the guy is that sick -- just give him a couple of weeks off, to get his tonsils fixed, to get to know the Guys a little bit, and to hang out and get acclimated to his new home. I just don't see where we're in that big a hurry that the dude can't take a couple of weeks off to get better.
Nope, Oden didn't do any of those things... that was YOUR guy.
I've never seen anyone bail out on a 4-on-1 break because Amare was standing there. Amare's place on the All-Star team is going to be claimed by someone else very shortly.
Actually, Oldman has been sick as a dog. I know the coaches want Oden and Aldridge to gel, which is why Aldridge is in Vegas in the first place(LMA really has nothing to prove at the Vegas-level), but if the tonsilitis is that bad, I'd just as soon see everyone involved say "screw summer ball, and screw the Team USA mini-camp." Dude should just go to the hospital, get the tonsils out, and start getting healthy, rather than kill himself in scrimmages. It's a nice idea on paper, but Oden is going to be in the NBA for a looooooong time, so let's get the guy up to full health and get on with it.
And since LMA showed us nothing we didn't already know, and since Oden is looking like the Walking Undead, and since LMA's only function in Vegas is to gel with Oldman and show him the ropes... sit LaMarcus down for the remaining 4 games, too. Or he can be working his mojo with ROY at the practice facility(ROY is in Vegas as a spectator/wannabe coach/moral supporter). Give Freeland Oden's summer job, and give McRoberts LMA's job. At this point, I don't think playing GO and LMA is doing anything terribly productive. Then again, they don't pay me millions of dollars to make those decisions. I also understand that the Blazers want to get their PR=Superstar in the public eye as much as possible over the next 3-4 months. But if the guy is that sick -- just give him a couple of weeks off, to get his tonsils fixed, to get to know the Guys a little bit, and to hang out and get acclimated to his new home. I just don't see where we're in that big a hurry that the dude can't take a couple of weeks off to get better.
I got 99 problems but the 'vid ain't one
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The wheel is turningDinsdale wrote:If the right hand don't get you, the left hand will(bonus points for anyone who can identify which NBA player(s) coined that phrase while tag-teaming a position on a Championship team).
and you can't slow down
You can't let go
and you can't hold on
You can't go back
and you can't stand still
If the right hand don't get you
the left hand will
Robert Hunter. Not related to Les “Big Game” Hunter.
Joe in PB wrote: Yeah I'm the dumbass
schmick, speaking about Larry Nassar's pubescent and prepubescent victims wrote: They couldn't even kick that doctors ass
Seems they rather just lay there, get fucked and play victim
Uhm...not quite.
Thunder and lightning are not quite the same as left and right...although any Bob Hunter quites will always warm me to my cockles.
"If the right hand don't get you, the left one will" was used by Kenny Smith and Sam Cassell during the Rockets' championship runs, since it seemed like one of those guys ALWAYS had the hot-hand during those years.
Thunder and lightning are not quite the same as left and right...although any Bob Hunter quites will always warm me to my cockles.
"If the right hand don't get you, the left one will" was used by Kenny Smith and Sam Cassell during the Rockets' championship runs, since it seemed like one of those guys ALWAYS had the hot-hand during those years.
I got 99 problems but the 'vid ain't one
BTW -- I watched some of yesterday's game, and Greg Oden was starting to look like Greg Oden. Still learning the officiating(I've called my shot that dude will be in foul trouble for much of his rookie campaign), but showing signs of being the super-intimidating force inside that we're betting the franchise on. When dude catches the ball deep in the paint, it's 2 on the scoreboard, and this rule doesn't appear to be up for negotiation. Kind of reminscent of Shaq-with-a-drop-step. Just get out of the way.
Backboards fear Oden.
Backboards fear Oden.
I got 99 problems but the 'vid ain't one
I'm nearly certain that R. Bell was near the top in 3 pt. FG's made and/or percentage last year (or maybe two years ago) anyway, the guy has a pretty decent stroke....he made a damn big shot in a playoff game against the Clips two years ago as well. I think you'll find his shooting percentage is more than adequate. I'd look, but I really don't care that much!Dinsdale wrote: the most overrated players in the league, Raja Bell. WTF... if a guy can't make a shot, they call him a "defensive specialist,"
You aren't really rolling that out as a pro-Bell stat, are you?
There's more to stats than meets the eye.
I Don't Even Know Who That Guy Is(Rack Kobe for that one) plays with arguably the best offensive player in the league(although his complete lack of any defense makes the MVP awards a mockery). He also plays with Matrix and Amare, who certainly are no slouches on the offensive end.
Bear in mind Phoenix' "six seconds or less" offensive strategy. They want to ram it down the floor, go to the basket(hopefully off a Nash pass), and get a layup. But as they say, "the best laid plans of mice and men." Meaning this doesn't always happen. Which means they need an alternative on offense when the layup plan falls through, and Phoenix is forced into their brief but pathetic halfcourt sets.
Now, if you're an oppsing coach, who do you focus on -- Nash with his penetration, Marion with his out-freaking-standing play off the dribble(and girl's jumper), Amare with his beast-above-the-rim play...
or Raja Freaking Bell?
BTW-that was a rhetorical question.
So, an NBA player gets jumpers where he gets to set his feet, gets to shoot them with no one within 10 feet of him, and now he's good because he drains a few?
Yeah, whatever. James Jones made them at almost the same clip. And he got to stand there and chuck open ones off the bench. Matter of fact, give me a few mil to work my jumper back into shape, and my 40 year old ass will hit 40% of them too, if nobody is gaurding me.
Eddie House hit a better percentage -- does that make him better than Bell?
Did Jason Capono hit that many more than everyone else because he's the best shooter, or because the defense was focusing on Shaq and Wade? I don't know, but we might find out this next season.
Hell, Ime Udoka hit 3's at about the same clip as Bell, and trust me, he's a better defender than Bell ever thought about being. And he's probably leaving the Blazers, since they aren't willing to pony up $4 mil a year for him(although it looks like San Antonio is willing to -- great move for them). And Ime wasn't playing six-seconds-or-less ball... only 3's he took all year were with the shot clock under 2.
Bell is crap, and he's definitely the weak link in that lineup. He reminds me too much of Horace Grant -- the dude who thinks he's all that and a bag of chips, the ultimate superstar, big mouth a-flappin... because his teammates are good. Get the fuck outta here.
Oh, and memo to Raja Bell -- Uhm, Kobe Bryant has a nasty habit of finding a place in the history books for guys who talk shit about him before playoffs games. Rueben Patterson, aka the self-proclaimed "Kobe-Stoppah" out front should have told you.(Even Blazerfans laugh at Rube sitting down with the national reporters and claiming he had the unique skills to neutralize Kobe... then promptly got lit up for like 42... classic).
There's more to stats than meets the eye.
I Don't Even Know Who That Guy Is(Rack Kobe for that one) plays with arguably the best offensive player in the league(although his complete lack of any defense makes the MVP awards a mockery). He also plays with Matrix and Amare, who certainly are no slouches on the offensive end.
Bear in mind Phoenix' "six seconds or less" offensive strategy. They want to ram it down the floor, go to the basket(hopefully off a Nash pass), and get a layup. But as they say, "the best laid plans of mice and men." Meaning this doesn't always happen. Which means they need an alternative on offense when the layup plan falls through, and Phoenix is forced into their brief but pathetic halfcourt sets.
Now, if you're an oppsing coach, who do you focus on -- Nash with his penetration, Marion with his out-freaking-standing play off the dribble(and girl's jumper), Amare with his beast-above-the-rim play...
or Raja Freaking Bell?
BTW-that was a rhetorical question.
So, an NBA player gets jumpers where he gets to set his feet, gets to shoot them with no one within 10 feet of him, and now he's good because he drains a few?
Yeah, whatever. James Jones made them at almost the same clip. And he got to stand there and chuck open ones off the bench. Matter of fact, give me a few mil to work my jumper back into shape, and my 40 year old ass will hit 40% of them too, if nobody is gaurding me.
Eddie House hit a better percentage -- does that make him better than Bell?
Did Jason Capono hit that many more than everyone else because he's the best shooter, or because the defense was focusing on Shaq and Wade? I don't know, but we might find out this next season.
Hell, Ime Udoka hit 3's at about the same clip as Bell, and trust me, he's a better defender than Bell ever thought about being. And he's probably leaving the Blazers, since they aren't willing to pony up $4 mil a year for him(although it looks like San Antonio is willing to -- great move for them). And Ime wasn't playing six-seconds-or-less ball... only 3's he took all year were with the shot clock under 2.
Bell is crap, and he's definitely the weak link in that lineup. He reminds me too much of Horace Grant -- the dude who thinks he's all that and a bag of chips, the ultimate superstar, big mouth a-flappin... because his teammates are good. Get the fuck outta here.
Oh, and memo to Raja Bell -- Uhm, Kobe Bryant has a nasty habit of finding a place in the history books for guys who talk shit about him before playoffs games. Rueben Patterson, aka the self-proclaimed "Kobe-Stoppah" out front should have told you.(Even Blazerfans laugh at Rube sitting down with the national reporters and claiming he had the unique skills to neutralize Kobe... then promptly got lit up for like 42... classic).
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You said Bell wasn't a good shooter.......period. To quote, you said "if the guy can't make a shot". The statistics over the course of a season show that he is, indeed a good shooter. Yes, he plays on a team with a lot of weapons, but he still has to make the shot. I answered your original gripe about Bell. He is probably the weak link (oh by the way, he plays with two First Team All NBA players).....but he's still a good shooter. As for defensive specialist, name me one player in the league that could stop Kobe one-on-one?? That to is a rhetorical question.
Kobe didn't even bother to show up for Game 7 two years ago. His performance in the second half of that game was as embarrasing a performance as I've ever seen.
And if you want to see a "bad" shooter, watch James Jones next year.....there is a reason Bell started, took more three pointers, made a better percentage and made more three pointers than Junior did. Because he's better. To say the guy can't shoot and then say that his stats over the course of an entire season don't matter is just ridiculous. The guy made more three pointers than anybody else in the league. Percentage-wise he's in the top 16......of course your opinion means more than those stats.
Kobe didn't even bother to show up for Game 7 two years ago. His performance in the second half of that game was as embarrasing a performance as I've ever seen.
And if you want to see a "bad" shooter, watch James Jones next year.....there is a reason Bell started, took more three pointers, made a better percentage and made more three pointers than Junior did. Because he's better. To say the guy can't shoot and then say that his stats over the course of an entire season don't matter is just ridiculous. The guy made more three pointers than anybody else in the league. Percentage-wise he's in the top 16......of course your opinion means more than those stats.