Kramer says N*gger

Jack · Post by **Jack** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 5:09 am

Video of response to Kramer -Michael Richards

WOW!

Too bad there aren't many, if any BROTHERS in here.

We could discuss this and not be so one sided..

Wait, I said Brothers and I am assuming that you knew that I was talking about Brown skinned men.

Next time, you leave a Chris Rock concert and he says "Cracker" or "honky" .. go straight to BET and
let them know how offended you are..

BET is Black Entertainment Television for those of you whom are color impaired.

When will we all be equal??? Equal enough that calling someone a name or making a joke about culture is either eqaully offensive or equally funny???

Mr. Belvedere · Post by **Mr. Belvedere** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 5:14 am

It aint on tape so not much will come of it. That being said the report of what kramer did was not an offcolor (excuse the pun) joke, but rather a racist meltdown. Damn I wish I could have seen that.

Jack · Post by **Jack** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 5:24 am

It's good for Michael Richards that it wasn't on tape but come on
tell me if a white guy at a show started heckling the Wayans brothers that you wouldn't hear
Cracker, Honky, etc..

Have you listened to Carlos Mencia??

The dude is funny!! and all he does is crack on race and culture.

Chris Rock is hilarious! and most of his act is racial slurs.

All I am saying.. is the obvious...
Racial slurs and jokes are considered hostile when white people say them
and funny when non whites say them!

Remember this:

Chris Rock's mom claims discrimination at Cracker Barrel !!

Damon Wayans Trademarking "Nigga" for Clothing Company Venture

Pretty funny, HUH!!

Mr. Belvedere · Post by **Mr. Belvedere** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 5:58 am

I'm not denying that a great part of the shtick for minority comedians is racial jokes (usually at the expense of whites), I'm not saying that this shit should blow up on Michael Richards (people are too fucking sensitive these days) I am saying though that what's being reported was that he had a meltdown, not part of an act.

Pushing the edge of descency or blowing right through it (sup' Aristocrats) is part of comedy and I don't want it to stop. Just sayin' that what I've read was that dude got pissy and melted. That's fine for message boards, doesn't work so well when you're a celeb on a stage.

FATALFART · Post by **FATALFART** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 10:14 am

whos kramer?

Jack · Post by **Jack** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 11:50 am

What you are saying Mr. Belvedere is true...Sad but True!!

Nishlord · Post by **Nishlord** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 2:22 pm

Seinfeld was fucking shit.

Bizzarofelice · Post by **Bizzarofelice** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 2:40 pm

If that lawyer got him some of that hot cofee money Kramer would be content with "those types".

The Seer · Post by **The Seer** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 3:53 pm

Jack wrote:
Too bad there aren't many, if any BROTHERS in here.

We could discuss this and not be so one sided..

Consult with Bobby42

AJ · Post by AJ » Mon Nov 20, 2006 4:12 pm

http://us.video.aol.com/video.index.adp ... id=1772645

Uncle Fester · Post by **Uncle Fester** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 4:22 pm

Nishlord wrote:Seinfeld was fucking shit.

I suppose it's a bit tough to comprehend for those used to Benny Hill and The Goodies.

ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2 · Mon Nov 20, 2006 4:29 pm

Nishlord wrote:Seinfeld was the fucking shit.

Fixed.

Nishlord · Post by **Nishlord** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 4:37 pm

Good to see that mvscal is still reading the women's mags.

Uncle Fester wrote:
Nishlord wrote:Seinfeld was fucking shit.
I suppose it's a bit tough to comprehend for those used to Benny Hill and The Goodies.

I'm not the world's biggest Benny Hill fan, but Seinfeld was American 'comedy' at its worst. Formulaic rubbish built around whoever was 'hot' at the time and milked to death with the accompaniment of a moronic audience who screamed like baboons with dildos because someone walked through a door. Compared to the best American sitcoms, it was fucking shit. And the Goodies were mint, actually.

ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2 · Mon Nov 20, 2006 4:50 pm

Nishlord wrote:I'm not the world's biggest Benny Hill fan, but Seinfeld was American 'comedy' at its worst. Formulaic rubbish built around whoever was 'hot' at the time and milked to death with the accompaniment of a moronic audience who screamed like baboons with dildos because someone walked through a door. Compared to the best American sitcoms, it was fucking shit. And the Goodies were mint, actually.

It was "milked" for maybe 2 or 3 seasons longer than it should have, but anyone with half a brain should recognize the genius that was seasons 1-6.

Fuck you, and fuck The Office. It was shit over there and it's even worse in America. British comedic gold is a reality show about dentistry, you clueless fuck.

Cuda · Post by **Cuda** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 4:52 pm

Nishlord wrote:Compared to the best American sitcoms...

First Tier: Dick VanDyke Show, Mr. Ed, Danny Thomas

Second Tier: Seinfeld

3rd Tier: Everything else

Best thing about Seinfeld was that the show ended production pretty close to the same time it stopped being amusing

Nishlord · Post by **Nishlord** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 4:56 pm

ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2 wrote:
Nishlord wrote:I'm not the world's biggest Benny Hill fan, but Seinfeld was American 'comedy' at its worst. Formulaic rubbish built around whoever was 'hot' at the time and milked to death with the accompaniment of a moronic audience who screamed like baboons with dildos because someone walked through a door. Compared to the best American sitcoms, it was fucking shit. And the Goodies were mint, actually.
It was "milked" for maybe 2 or 3 seasons longer than it should have, but anyone with half a brain should recognize the genius that was seasons 1-6.

Fuck you, and fuck The Office. It was shit over there and it's even worse in America. British comedic gold is a reality show about dentistry, you clueless fuck.

Ooh, get her.

Are You Being Served - funnier than Seinfeld.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 4:58 pm

Cuda wrote:
Nishlord wrote:Compared to the best American sitcoms...
Above Above First Tier: The Honeymooners

Above First Tier: AITF, M*A*S*H, Green Acres, My Mother the Car

First Tier: Dick VanDyke Show, Mr. Ed, Danny Thomas

Second Tier: Seinfeld

3rd Tier: Everything else

Best thing about Seinfeld was that the show ended production pretty close to the same time it stopped being amusing

FTFY

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 5:11 pm

What, no love for Andy Griffith? I enjoyed Seinfeld, I really enjoyed the original The Office, and my favorite recent British comedies are Coupling and Father Ted.

I've got a couple dozen episodes of the old Amos and Andy series on VHS tapes. Fucking hilarious.

ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2 · Mon Nov 20, 2006 5:19 pm

Nishlord wrote:Are You Being Served - funnier than Seinfeld.

I like my idea better. I even have a name for it: Piccadilly Choppers. Think of all of the hijinks associated with the wacky premise of a British Orthodonist.

Cuda · Post by **Cuda** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 5:25 pm

Mikey wrote:
Cuda wrote:
Nishlord wrote:Compared to the best American sitcoms...
Above Above First Tier: The Honeymooners

Above First Tier: AITF, M*A*S*H, Green Acres, My Mother the Car

First Tier: Dick VanDyke Show, Mr. Ed, Danny Thomas

Second Tier: Seinfeld

3rd Tier: Everything else

Best thing about Seinfeld was that the show ended production pretty close to the same time it stopped being amusing
FTFY

I'll concede on The Honeymooners, and I'll even grant you a point on Green Acres, (although not above 1st Tier), but M*A*S*H just truly S*U*C*K*E*D and AITF & MMTC were below 4th Tier.

Andy Griffith is knocked out of the running because it stuck around too long. Should have ended with the B&W seasons

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 5:28 pm

Cooter commenting on what’s funny=I*R*O*N*Y

Cuda · Post by **Cuda** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 5:32 pm

Would it be ironic then to say that an unfunny douche like Gobbles McTubesteak making such an absurd remark is uncharacteristically hilarious?

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 5:44 pm

I only threw in MMTC because talking cars are just as funny as talking horses.

Well maybe not quite as funny.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Mon Nov 20, 2006 6:28 pm

Nishlord wrote:Compared to the best American sitcoms

Which do you feel are "the best" then?

See You Next Wednesday · Mon Nov 20, 2006 6:49 pm

MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:
Nishlord wrote:Compared to the best American sitcoms
Which do you feel are "the best" then?

Bush & Freinds - That show is classic. Who can forget the time that Tenet character said about WMDs in Iraq "It's a slam dunk". Or wacky Secretary Rumsfeld proclaiming, "We'll be greeted as liberators" and of course the Bush himself proclaiming, "Major operations in Iraq are complete". All of them instant classics.

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 6:53 pm

Cuda wrote:Would it be ironic then to say that an unfunny douche like Gobbles McTubesteak making such an absurd remark is uncharacteristically hilarious?

You've been taking posting lessons from Dungslinger, haven't you?

Uncle Fester · Post by **Uncle Fester** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 7:14 pm

Formulaic rubbish...

There was nothing "formulaic" about Seinfeld. It was offbeat, strange, and downright weird, which was part of its genius.

I mean what "formula" produces lines like these?

Jerry: "You should always carry a pad and pen!"
George: "I can't carry a pen, I'm afraid it'll puncture my scrotum!"

and this...

Kramer: See, showmanship. Maybe that's what my gonorrhea is missing.

Jerry: Yes! Step into that spotlight and belt that gonorrhea out to the back
row.

Kramer: Yes, yes I will! I'm gonna make people feel my gonorrhea, and feel the
gonorrhea themselves.

Or...

New scene.
Elaine and Puddy have gone to see a priest, Father Curtis.

Father Curtis: Let me see if I understand this. You're concerned that he isn't
concerned that you're going to hell. And you feel that she's too bossy.

Elaine and Puddy: Yeah, that's right.

Father Curtis: Well, oftentimes in cases of inter-faith marriages, couples have
difficulty--

Elaine (Interrupting): Woah, woah, woah! No one's getting married here.

Father Curtis: You aren't?

Puddy: No.

Elaine: We're just, you know, having a good time.

Father Curtis: Oh, well then it's simple. You're both going to hell.

Puddy: No way, this is BOGUS, man!

Elaine: Well, thank you father.

Father Curtis: Oh, did you hear the one about the new guy in hell who's talkng
to the devil by the coffee machine?

Puddy: I'm really not in the mood, I'm going to hell.

More...
Dropping a Junior Mint into a surgery patient
Homeless people pulling rickshaws
Uncle Leo in a Cape Fear spoof with "Hello" and "Jerry" tatooed on his knuckles
George explaining "shrinkage" to Elaine

Formulaic? You're nuts. I could go on and on.

Seinfeld was hit and miss, but for sheer originality there was never anything like it, before or since.

And btw, "Are You Being Served" was as predicatable and formulaic as it comes. I mean c'mon, the mincing fairy drops yet another double entendre? Gee, that's fresh.

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 7:26 pm

RACK Fester. Spot on start to finish.

titlover · Post by **titlover** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 7:55 pm

Three's Company

lock this theard.

Bizzarofelice · Post by **Bizzarofelice** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 8:00 pm

maybe its a culture thing.

Seinfeld>Black Adder, Red Dwarf, Faulty Towers and The Office

PSUFAN · Post by **PSUFAN** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 8:11 pm

Arrested Development pwns this thread.

Bizzarofelice · Post by **Bizzarofelice** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 8:19 pm

e wrote:my dad doesn't get The Office (or Office Space) because he's an airline mechanic and it really doesn't resonate with him. maybe you don't get The Office because it isn't about dog-catching.

I get The Office. Saw the entire British and American run. I just don't think its as good as Seinfeld.

Arrested Development is the best damned show ever.

Dog-catching? What go outside and risk this $6,300 suit I mean COME ON!!

tuff gong · Post by **tuff gong** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 9:53 pm

I used to see reruns on PBS of a British sitcom about an assisted living facilty called 'Waiting for God'. It seemed to jump the shark ultimately but for its first couple of seasons it was just great. All they ever seem to give us now is 'Are You Being Served?' and 'Keeping up Appearances', and it's just not the same.

The thing I couldn't stand about 'The Office' - and though I haven't seen the American version I get the idea it's guilty of the same - it's the unrelenting emphasis on that boss's mortifying behavior. It pushes the show into the realm of wacky sitcom.

TenTallBen · Post by **TenTallBen** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 10:11 pm

Best British sitcom...

Luther · Post by **Luther** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 10:13 pm

The very first word that came to mind when I saw ^^^ pic was m2.

Rip City

Adelpiero · Post by **Adelpiero** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 11:24 pm

ignorant bruthers always claim whitey wont call him a mvscal to his face.

guess kramer didnt get that memo.

he's just keeping it real.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 12:16 am

Don't call me mvscal, whitey
Don't call me whitey, mvscal

Don't call me mvscal, whitey
Don't call me whitey, mvscal

Well I was down, across the country
And I heard two voices ring
They were talkin' angry to each other
And neither other could change a thing

Don't call me mvscal, whitey
Don't call me whitey, mvscal...

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 12:25 am

All in the family is easily the best. Green Acres? You gotta be kidding me. Honeymooners was pretty awesome as well.

and how 'bout some ;love for thre beverly hillbillies. it was dumb, but, it was funny as shit.

Deckard · Post by **Deckard** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 12:28 am

Bizzarofelice wrote:maybe its a culture thing.

Seinfeld>Black Adder, Red Dwarf, Faulty Towers and The Office

Actually "Fawlty" Towers is at least the equal of any of Seinfelds best episodes (better in my opinion) but only had twelve to choose from. Absolutely Fabulous was a fairly entertaining show as well.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 12:32 am

smackaholic wrote:All in the family is easily the best. Green Acres? You gotta be kidding me. Honeymooners was pretty awesome as well.

and how 'bout some ;love for thre beverly hillbillies. it was dumb, but, it was funny as shit.

Yeah, the Hillbillies were pretty funny. I forgot about Get Smart, too. I used to dream about a threesome with Agent 99 and Mrs. Peel.

T1B

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