A question about Israel

Van · Post by **Van** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 5:16 pm

mvscal wrote:Of course he doesn't exist. He is a figment of the imagination to help mental cripples through their daily lives. Not that there is anything wrong with that...in moderation.

Make me have to bet my mortgage on it and I'd probably side with this argument over poptart's, but still neither side knows anything one way or the other.

The Whistle Is Screaming · Tue Jul 18, 2006 5:20 pm

Sudden Sam wrote:
The Whistle Is Screaming wrote:

There is 1 mission planned for Iran if diplomatic channels fail to remove Iran's nuke threat/capabilities. Timetable for that mission is about 10 months out.
TWIS, you wanna tell us anything? You with the government in Tel Aviv? Mossad, perhaps?

Cool. I won't tell.

I can neither confirm nor deny my involvement ( if indeed I was even involved) in any officially sanctioned or non-sanctioned activities that never even happened in the first place, got it?

The information was actually from Prime Minister Olmerts brother. I was at a function and he was the guest speaker. He said Iran and specifically their nuke program, is Israels #1 threat.

Van · Post by **Van** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 5:26 pm

Not exactly breaking news, that...

The very second Israel locates anything related to an Iranian nuke facility that facility will then become a former nuke facility.

Van · Post by **Van** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 5:28 pm

Within Iran (as opposed to doing it on Russian soil), with the proven intention of building offensive nukes.

Better?

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 5:29 pm

Van wrote: The very second Israel locates anything related to an Iranian nuke facility that facility will then become a former nuke facility.

Van...are you really under the impression that somehow every developed nation in the world doesn't know exactly where every Iranian nuclear facility is?

Uhm yeah buddy...keep on talking about military/intelligence stuff...it looks good on you.

Can't believe I just read that...maybe I'm hallucinating?

Van · Post by **Van** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 5:39 pm

Like I said, on Iranian soil, with warhead technology; not just nuclear power plants in their nascent stage.

Attacking facilities run by the Russians on Russian soil is a different animal.

Dins, don't bother.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 5:42 pm

Van wrote: Dins, don't bother.

If you can't be bothered cracking open a fucking newspaper in the last few months, I guess I shouldn't bother bashing your head in for it.

Egads...

Uhm...just nevermind, Vannie. Nevermind. We'll let you know how the war goes.

Van · Post by **Van** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 6:00 pm

Mvscal, that Iraqi facility was in Iraq. Iran and the world have been negotiating a Russian built solution to Iran's supposedly peaceful (

) nuclear aspirations.

Dins, Iran doesn't yet have anything remotely resembling nuclear warheads capable of reaching Israel. From most accounts they are in the process of attempting to acquire them. That is what Israel will prevent, with or without anybody else's permission.

You know, according to those newspapers and stuff.

It's always funny when you come in like you're an expert on things about which you have no experience and little to no interest. So many things too, and always so condescending...

Good drugs. Very good drugs indeed...

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 6:04 pm

Van, try reading this about 100 times, and maybe it will sink in --

mvscal wrote: Their enrichment facilities aren't located in Russia. They are in Iran.

What does thast have to do with "Russian facilities?"

Shut the fuck up with your arrogance, nitwit.

Iran is persuing nuclear weapons, and a working enrichment facility is step one to getting it.

Step two is those missiles they've been bragging about testing, you unfucking believably ill-informed dweeb.

Props on being one of the few people left on Earth who doesn't know this.

Wow...just wow.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 6:06 pm

Oh, cut him some slack mv -- it's not like Iran would share that weapons-grade juice with AQ, Hamas, or Hezbollah, or anything like that.

Wouldn't be their nature.

indyfrisco · Post by **indyfrisco** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 6:08 pm

Van wrote:Make me have to bet my mortgage on it and I'd probably side with this argument over poptart's, but still neither side knows anything one way or the other.

Sounds like you've already bet your place in eternity on it. I'd say you're all in.

Tom In VA · Post by **Tom In VA** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 6:09 pm

Dirty bombs and or the ability to bluff as if they did have that capability ?

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 6:13 pm

Sudden Sam wrote:"This is a huge system of facilities they have. This is not going to be a small sort of engagement. We are probably going to have to destroy 30 facilities in 30 locations. Or at least 15

That article is bullshit.

Sin,
Van

The Whistle Is Screaming · Tue Jul 18, 2006 6:16 pm

Sam,
It was probably just a ploy to gain western sympathy.

Tom In VA · Post by **Tom In VA** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 6:16 pm

mvscal wrote:
Tom In VA wrote:Dirty bombs
~yawn~

Can't imagine anyone wasting weapons grade shit for such a riduculously low payoff.

Didn't think the dirty bomb stuff had to be weapons grade shit and could actually be radioactive waste generated in the production of weapons grade shit.

The Whistle Is Screaming · Tue Jul 18, 2006 6:19 pm

Tom In VA wrote: Didn't think the dirty bomb stuff had to be weapons grade shit and could actually be radioactive waste generated in the production of weapons grade shit.

My dirty bombs are weapons grade shit. You can believe that!

Signed,
Little TWIS II

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 6:21 pm

mvscal wrote: Dirty bombs are just something for the media to jerk off over anyway. They're a joke.

Seem like a awful lof or risk, planning, and effort for something that might casue 3 people to die early deaths from cancer...20 years from now.

Tom In VA · Post by **Tom In VA** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 6:26 pm

http://www.fas.org/faspir/2002/v55n2/dirtybomb.htm

Looks like it.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 6:27 pm

mvscal wrote:Even chemical weapons are hyped beyond any realistic concern.

From what I understand, it takes quite a bit of the toxins to be a significant threat to a large number of people. While the chemical weapons seem like a severe risk in and of themselves, the logistics involved in deploying one, especially in another country(say, the USA for example) are a severely limiting factor to their deployment.

Van · Post by **Van** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 6:31 pm

IndyFrisco wrote:
Van wrote:Make me have to bet my mortgage on it and I'd probably side with this argument over poptart's, but still neither side knows anything one way or the other.
Sounds like you've already bet your place in eternity on it. I'd say you're all in.

Nope. I don't know.

Van · Post by **Van** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 6:38 pm

Dins wrote:From what I understand...

Usually the beginning of your problem...

Dins, Israel will take out Iran's nuclear program when it begins to become a credible threat to the security of Israel. Nascent nuclear enrichment facilities don't yet equate to weapons grade warheads and a delivery system capable of reliably reaching specific targets in Israel.

Before it gets to that point Iran will see its toys taken from them by Israel.

That is, assuming the rest of the world doesn't beat Israel to the punch.

That's my "understanding" of the situation.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 6:41 pm

Van wrote:Israel will take out Iran's nuclear program when it begins to become a credible threat to the security of Israel.

Oh, so now you admit that Iran actually has facilities(outside of those they operate in Russia, of course)?

A good first step for you.

But by all means -- when you put your foot in your mouth, continue telling other people that they're ignorant...it's your style.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 6:45 pm

mvscal wrote:we could be poised for the smackdown by mid to late September.

You guys know, I'm kind of a peacenic, anti-war sort of guy.

BUT, it cracks me up that these rebels develope what essentially amounts to a glorified spear, and suddenly think they're getting over on the USA.

What it takes those fools years and years to develope, and even more years to figure out a decent way to deply it, we can counter with the push of a button.

Tom In VA · Post by **Tom In VA** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 6:50 pm

Dinsdale wrote:But by all means -- when you put your foot in your mouth, continue telling other people that they're ignorant...it's your style.

Pot says what

Have to rack Dins' audacity and boldness.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 6:52 pm

Tom In VA wrote:
Have to rack Dins' audacity and boldness.

:winkywinky:

Van · Post by **Van** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 6:59 pm

Dinsdale wrote:
Van wrote:Israel will take out Iran's nuclear program when it begins to become a credible threat to the security of Israel.
Oh, so now you admit that Iran actually has facilities(outside of those they operate in Russia, of course)?

A good first step for you.

But by all means -- when you put your foot in your mouth, continue telling other people that they're ignorant...it's your style.

V-Rod much? Gonna Buell me some more?

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 7:10 pm

Van, for God's sake, just shut the fuck up and get to praying for Pervis and Quadrepelegic.

After you check with your manager.

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Tue Jul 18, 2006 7:12 pm

mvscal wrote: I'm sure even apocalyptic religious lunatics are familiar with the KISS doctrine.

Rock and roll all night, and party ev-ery day?

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 7:17 pm

Martyred wrote:
mvscal wrote: I'm sure even apocalyptic religious lunatics are familiar with the KISS doctrine.
Rock and roll all night, and party ev-ery day?

Don't be silly.

They plan on using the ingrained Muslim population to mount a massive attack on Detroit with rocks.

Van · Post by **Van** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 7:20 pm

Dinsdale wrote:Van, for God's sake, just shut the fuck up and get to praying for Pervis and Quadrepelegic.

After you check with your manager.

:D :D :D

That was good. :fucker:

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 7:23 pm

Van wrote: That was good.

Yeah, I'm kinda epic like that.

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Tue Jul 18, 2006 7:24 pm

Dinsdale wrote:
Martyred wrote:
mvscal wrote: I'm sure even apocalyptic religious lunatics are familiar with the KISS doctrine.
Rock and roll all night, and party ev-ery day?

Don't be silly.

They plan on using the ingrained Muslim population to mount a massive attack on Detroit with rocks.

~~~ walks away dragging his feet and sulks at the thought of not seeing Ace Frehley pronounce Fatwah on the infidel ~~~

RadioFan · Post by **RadioFan** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 7:33 pm

Sudden Sam wrote:I'm not worried about things getting that bad,

Check out the poll at one of Tulsa's Right-wing talk radio stations on the right side of the page.

Are new Mideast Tensions the start of World War III?

Yes: 67.4%
No: 32.6

No real surprise though. A lot of folks here pretty much see End Times whenever a fingernail gets broken or a thunderstorm rolls in.

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 7:33 pm

mvscal wrote:Dubya is a Methodist clown.

Removed the unnecessary comma for you.

Rich Fader · Post by **Rich Fader** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 7:58 pm

Sudden Sam wrote:Please....PLEASE...some of you religious folks...please tell me President W didn't decide (by way of invading Iraq) that it was his duty to initiate Armageddon. Please tell me no one is that insane (other than Pat Robertson, that is).

I'm not worried about things getting that bad, but I really wanna know that our elected leaders aren't quite that screwed up.

I'm not worried about Dubya. I'm worried about that living, breathing, walking, gibbering Chick tract character running Iran. And so should any sane individual (or even you mensas) be.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 8:14 pm

mvscal wrote:That means that they are about as mild mannered as Christians can possibly get.

It also means that you an ignorant dumbfuck.

Nixon was a Quaker. That didn't stop him from being a lying, thieving shitbag with a propensity to bomb places.

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Tue Jul 18, 2006 8:15 pm

Sudden Sam wrote:
So that precludes W from taking it upon himself to begin the end?

Dude, you have a president, not a king. You elect a tele-genic actor every four years.

Get off this thinking that American presidents are capable of splitting the atom once they take
the Oath Of Office.

The reality is, is that Bush is about as single-handedly responsible for steering the nation's course as Dinsdale is.

OCmike · Post by **OCmike** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 8:37 pm

BSmack wrote:
mvscal wrote:That means that they are about as mild mannered as Christians can possibly get.

It also means that you an ignorant dumbfuck.
Nixon was a Quaker. That didn't stop him from being a lying, thieving shitbag with a propensity to bomb places.

But besides that he wasn't bad...

Mike the Lab Rat · Post by **Mike the Lab Rat** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 8:39 pm

Martyred wrote:The reality is, is that Bush is about as single-handedly responsible for steering the nation's course as Dinsdale is.

Give the man a kewpie doll. He's right.

I believe that it was the irrepresible Bobcat Goldthwait who said, in speaking of the presidency, that blaming the president for the nation's problems is like blaming Ronald McDonald when you get a bad hamburger.

Bobcat wasn't the funniest or most creative guy, but he hit that one right on the head....

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 5:21 pm

Sudden Sam wrote: Dinsdale's not in charge?!

I'm going to have to contemplate this further, and quite possibly cry.