Eight Dead Guys in Canada

silvurna · Post by **silvurna** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 3:08 pm

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/americas/ ... index.html
Contrary to original reports that foul play was involved, it has been determined that the eight men died of boredom.

Risa · Post by **Risa** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 3:16 pm

silvurna wrote:http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/americas/ ... index.html
Contrary to original reports that foul play was involved, it has been determined that the eight men died of boredom.

Police were not disclosing many details about the deaths in rural Ontario, about 20 miles southwest of the city of London, except to say that four vehicles were involved, including a tow truck, and that the dead were all men. (Watch how the crime has disrupted quiet life in Ontario -- 1:30)

somebody went to a lot of work.

organized crime? (nah.. the murderer/s wanted to be found)

a serial killer of men getting their jollies off (yeah...that has my vote)? i hope the dude(s) who did this are found and executed.

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 3:36 pm

why's it gotta be a dude? coulda been a chick. maybe a black chick.

Diego in Seattle · Post by **Diego in Seattle** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 3:38 pm

Canadian farm are not a safe place to be.

-MA

fix · Post by **fix** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 3:42 pm

Risa wrote:
silvurna wrote:http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/americas/ ... index.html
Contrary to original reports that foul play was involved, it has been determined that the eight men died of boredom.

Police were not disclosing many details about the deaths in rural Ontario, about 20 miles southwest of the city of London, except to say that four vehicles were involved, including a tow truck, and that the dead were all men. (Watch how the crime has disrupted quiet life in Ontario -- 1:30)

somebody went to a lot of work.

organized crime? (nah.. the murderer/s wanted to be found)

a serial killer of men getting their jollies off (yeah...that has my vote)? i hope the dude(s) who did this are found and executed.

It's gang related.

That area has long been notorious for bodies being dumped and biker gang killings/shootings.

Risa · Post by **Risa** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 4:21 pm

JaysFan wrote:That area has long been notorious for bodies being dumped and biker gang killings/shootings.

well, color me surprised. why would somebody be that brazen?
just dumping bodies as if it's no big deal somebody else's problem.. what happened to burying bodies and letting the worms and maggots do their thing? fucking lazy.... and bold. somebody who would do this

is not afraid of anybody or anything. that's a human being. but just pop the damn trunk. don't give a fuck. these are the real terrorists. that's just sick.

It's not known if the driver of a missing Toronto area tow truck parked at the scene is among the dead.

that's just sick. good god, i hope they're found whoever did this. they are unworthy of breathing.

fix · Post by **fix** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 4:30 pm

If it's gang related, which it most likely is, then that's just the cost you risk paying for doing business with other criminals.

Edit to add updated news:

“At this point in our investigation, we are confident that all the victims were known to each other and are from the Greater Toronto Area,” Bingley said at a press conference Sunday.

Detectives are now searching the rural crime scene for evidence and a canine unit is also on standby to help in the search.

It’s not known if the eight men were killed in the field or if their bodies were dumped there. Investigators have also refused to speculate on a possible motive or suspects.

The London area has a history of biker activity, causing some to wonder if these murders have links to organized crime. A number of clubs are located in the area, including the Loners, the Banditos and the Hells Angels.

al? · Post by **al?** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 4:57 pm

Risa wrote:

that's just sick. good god, i hope they're found whoever did this. they are unworthy of breathing.

Your disgust has been noted and logged.

we don't GAF,

sin,

Adelpiero · Post by **Adelpiero** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 6:09 pm

i guess jose theodore family is pissed about the trade

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 6:54 pm

Adelpiero wrote:i guess jose theodore family is pissed about the trade

i didn't think bikers were keen on frogs.

fix · Post by **fix** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 8:53 pm

Screw_Michigan wrote:
Adelpiero wrote:i guess jose theodore family is pissed about the trade
i didn't think bikers were keen on frogs.

You've obviously never heard of the Rock Machine or the biker wars that Quebec has had.

Nishlord · Post by **Nishlord** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 10:05 pm

The London area has a history of biker activity, causing some to wonder if these murders have links to organized crime. A number of clubs are located in the area, including the Loners, the Banditos and the Hells Angels.

Alright. How can you be in a gang - which is usually a group activity, as I'm sure we'll all agree - and call yourself the Loners?

silvurna · Post by **silvurna** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 2:11 am

Two things jump out at me after reading the report..the property owners said the cars weren't there when they drove home the night before which suggests that someone was monitoring their departures and arrivals at their home, and that the vehicles were all parked away from each other which suggests multiple killers unless this was a group suicide thing ala Heaven's Gate/Marshall Applewhite.

fix · Post by **fix** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 12:12 pm

All 8 are reported to be members of the Bandidos MC and police raided the home of a known bike gang leader which just happened to be less than 5 minutes away from the crime scene.

Hells Angels say they're not involved.

DMike316 · Post by **DMike316** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 1:54 pm

RACK! Nishlord.

A group of Loners ?? :?

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Mon Apr 10, 2006 1:56 pm

I drive past the Hell's Angels clubhouse here in Toronto about 3-4 times a week.

Uncomfortable.

DMike316 · Post by **DMike316** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 2:11 pm

martyred wrote:I drive past the Hell's Angels clubhouse here in Toronto about 3-4 times a week.

:HUGEFUCKINGROLLEYES:

Where do I even start?

One of my buddies is pretty high up on the Hell's Angels food chain because, you know, around here we're pretty much KNOWN as the bad-ass biker Capital of the planet.
Anyhow, while sipping some of his world reknowned blended wine AND grapling with power tool wielding rabid gargoyles, he commented on this and ~ Shocker ~ this kind of stuff happens in my backyard probably twice a month. I'm sure you Canadians knew this though because where you live (S'up Polar Bear invested chunk of ice) eight dead guys is news. Around here, eight dead guys is called just getting started. Call me whenever you have guys like, ohh, Gary "Green River" Ridgeway clipping people in your neighborhood. Tools.

- Dinsdale

Bizzarofelice · Post by **Bizzarofelice** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 2:12 pm

racks

Risa · Post by **Risa** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 3:19 pm

JaysFan wrote:All 8 are reported to be members of the Bandidos MC and police raided the home of a known bike gang leader which just happened to be less than 5 minutes away from the crime scene.

Hells Angels say they're not involved.

That's stupid. Grown men killing each other.
How trashy. There better had been a damn
good reason. Like, they were part of a kiddie
porn ring and somebody is exacting justice for
somebody else's little brother or sister.

If it ain't, take em all downtown. Just fucking stupid.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 5:20 pm

Risa wrote:That's stupid. Grown men killing each other.
How trashy. There better had been a damn
good reason.

Sincerely,
The African American Community?

RACK D$-btw. (Although I've been in clubhouses, but this probably wouldn't be the most opportune time to bring that up, now would it?)

Raydah James · Post by **Raydah James** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 5:38 pm

Dinsdale wrote: (Although I've been in clubhouses, but this probably wouldn't be the most opportune time to bring that up, now would it?)

No, please do. How much sketch were you buying at the time, you pathetic fuckbag? Did you have to suck cock to get in the clubhouse, or lick the vest of a new member who had it dipped in shit?

Either way, you should've hit up the fucking Vagos instead-you wouldnt have been had to pick mushroom manhair out of that landing strip of an overbite you call chompers.

tough love · Post by **tough love** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 5:56 pm

Begin Rant:
Funny how folk enjoy bragging up to knowing these scumbags as if they were something other then blood sucking leeches of a society.
8 Bandidos dead, 'eh.
Well if the dog submitting was not a forgone conclusion, Ont's criminal gang unit is presented with a righteous opportunity for the betterment of all of Canada.
A couple of choice take outs ought to get these scummers to cull themselves real good. :wink:

Drug pushing kid destroying criminal biker pigs being allow to roam about freely is just another grand example of how our justice systems have been compromised by the lawyer hearted elect.
End Rant.

Biker Blood Bath...WooHoo

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 5:59 pm

Alllllrighty, then.

Bored this morning, James?

I never said I purchased or consumed any zip in said clubhouses.

I just...meet a lot of people. Now that I'm no longer involved in certain...activities, I don't meet nearly as many careeer criminals as I used to, but I still...meet a lot of people. From all walks of life.

On the bright side, I know where to go if I ever want to get the front end of a Harley raked. Fuckers had a shop to do that right in the middle of the living room floor. Had an exhaust system in there, too, so they could tune the shit indoors, too. Plus, you have to be able to crack open the "CRANK"case in privacy, so the indoor shop works out.

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Mon Apr 10, 2006 6:24 pm

Dinsdale wrote: Plus, you have to be able to crack open the "CRANK"case in privacy...

He doesn't post here anymore. Bace ran him.

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 6:50 pm

tough love wrote:Begin Rant:
Funny how folk enjoy bragging up to knowing these scumbags as if they were something other then blood sucking leeches of a society.
8 Bandidos dead, 'eh.
Well if the dog submitting was not a forgone conclusion, Ont's criminal gang unit is presented with a righteous opportunity for the betterment of all of Canada.
A couple of choice take outs ought to get these scummers to cull themselves real good. :wink:

Drug pushing kid destroying criminal biker pigs being allow to roam about freely is just another grand example of how our justice systems have been compromised by the lawyer hearted elect.
End Rant.

Biker Blood Bath...WooHoo

So TL, have you read all 2,000 pages of the Urantia book? Do you believe it was passed to earthlings from alien beings? What have you done to achieve the agondonter status? Aren’t you just Willie Sadler’s bitch?

tough love · Post by **tough love** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 7:32 pm

Wrong thread, Goober.

But what the hey:

So TL, have you read all 2,000 pages of the Urantia book?

No

Do you believe it was passed to earthlings from alien beings?

Doesn't matter to me how it came to pass.

What have you done to achieve the agondonter status?

A person can dream, and it beats "Crack Whore"

Aren’t you just Willie Sadler’s bitch?

No, I'm Gods bitch.

silvurna · Post by **silvurna** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 8:10 pm

This thread slipped off topic a bit, something that happens infrequently on this board. I'll make an attempt to get this back on course with hard facts.
Marshall Applewhite and his followers all had their souls deposited in the tail of the Hale Bop comet. While chilling there, they met up with some representatives from the The American Cavalcade of Urantianites, who transported the Heaven's Gate crew to the farm in Canada, where they occupied the minds of the eight Bandidos(sp)who were able to kill themselves and make it look as though they were offed by rivals, just to piss a bunch of people off.
The Canadian cops are unaware of the Applewhite connection as of this writing, but they will find some clues.
Carry on.

Nishlord · Post by **Nishlord** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 9:51 pm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4897670.stm

Police sources described the killings as an "internal cleansing" by fellow members of the gang, known as a major rival to the US Hells Angels.

Fucking hell. What was so wrong with saying "You're not in our gang anymore" and then running off? Worked for me when I was six.

al? · Post by **al?** » Tue Apr 11, 2006 12:12 am

DMike316 wrote: this kind of stuff happens in my backyard probably twice a month. I'm sure you Canadians knew this though because where you live (S'up Polar Bear invested chunk of ice) eight dead guys is news. Around here, eight dead guys is called just getting started. Call me whenever you have guys like, ohh, Gary "Green River" Ridgeway clipping people in your neighborhood. Tools.

Wow.

You live in a place where society has denegrated to the point where 8 murders don't get even a page 6. You're my hero.

or not

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Tue Apr 11, 2006 12:24 am

Nishlord wrote:http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4897670.stm

Police sources described the killings as an "internal cleansing" by fellow members of the gang, known as a major rival to the US Hells Angels.

Fucking hell. What was so wrong with saying "You're not in our gang anymore" and then running off? Worked for me when I was six.

I suspect you and your mates weren't trying to monopolize the local meth market when you were six, were you?

tough love · Post by **tough love** » Tue Apr 11, 2006 12:30 am

Police sources described the killings as an "internal cleansing" by fellow members of the gang

CHA-RAAAP!!!
I'm never going to get any biker blood baths

Among other rejects; the Peg has the Los Bravos. (now associated with The Hells Fucwads) Their clubhouse is so ridiculously fortified, that all it would take is a couple of guys dressed in rival gang disguise to foil their many "strategically placed" cameras just in case their film survives, one bike lock for the huge iron gates they keep locked at the front that closes into the two front steel doors which they keep wide open during those warm summer nights, two wedges to block the steel doors that open outwardly at the back, a couple of 2.5 gal water pressure fire extingushers filled with gasoline, and two bic lighters.

They would be toast before they could pull the needles outta their asses.

Not that I ever would think of doing such a terribly worthwhile thing. :wink:

silvurna · Post by **silvurna** » Tue Apr 11, 2006 12:48 am

Just another disappointment. I was really looking for the Heaven's Gate connection.

fix · Post by **fix** » Tue Apr 11, 2006 2:07 am

The Victims

Full Fledged Bandidos
George Jesso, 52, Etobicoke,
George Kriarakis, 28,
Luis Manny Raposo, 41,
Francesco Salerajno, 43, all of Toronto,
Paul Sinopoli, 30, Sutton,
John Muscedere, 48, Chatham
(Muscedere was believed to be the president of the Bandidos in Canada.)

Associate Member
Michael Trotta, 31, Mississauga.

Prospect Member
Jamie Flanz, 37, Keswick

The Accused:

Wayne Kellestine, 56, Shedden, Ont.
Eric Niessen, 45,
Kerry Morris, 56, both of Monkton, Ont.,
Frank Mather, 32, Sutton-Dunwich Township,
Brett Gardner, 21, no fixed address

Ontario Provincial Police Detective-Superintendent Ross Bingley told a news conference in London, Ontario the eight victims all suffered gunshot wounds.
Bingley added five people, four men and a woman, have been arrested and each is charged with 8 counts of first-degree murder.

Cops insist their investigation is still at the early stage and admit more arrests could be coming. They were unable to say how the victims were lured to the area.

But sources say that the killings were carried out with help from outside the province.

Kellestine was reportedly seen with 6 members of the Winnipeg chapter of the Bandidos recently...

Friends of yours tl?

tough love · Post by **tough love** » Tue Apr 11, 2006 11:06 am

JaysFan Wrote:
Friends of yours tl?

Not any more. :twisted:

Rejects popping rejects.
Hopefully it catches on.

Edit:
Just spotted this:

Ex-biker thinks meth fuelled killings

By JACK BOLAND, TORONTO SUN

The man who was instrumental in bringing the Bandidos to Canada scoffed at the police notion that the biker massacre was "internal cleansing."

"That is bullsh--," Ed Winterhalder, the former president and secretary of the Oklahoma chapter of the Bandidos, said yesterday.

Winterhalder believes the murders of the bikers were fuelled by somebody on methamphetamine.

"The person who did the killing must have been a meth-head," Winterhalder said. "Usually they have been up for three or four days and sleep deprivation does some strange things to you."

http://torontosun.com/News/Canada/2006/ ... 1-sun.html

RIGHTEOUS POETIC JUSTICE, Batman:
If the above fucwad is correct, it's the likes of his pieces a shit criminal bikers buds who have become this country's main suppliers of the horrid Meth of which he speaks.

How gloriously funny would that be.

Nishlord · Post by **Nishlord** » Tue Apr 11, 2006 12:21 pm

smackaholic wrote:
Nishlord wrote:http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4897670.stm

Police sources described the killings as an "internal cleansing" by fellow members of the gang, known as a major rival to the US Hells Angels.

Fucking hell. What was so wrong with saying "You're not in our gang anymore" and then running off? Worked for me when I was six.
I suspect you and your mates weren't trying to monopolize the local meth market when you were six, were you?

Our local market only sold fruit, veg, and poor-quality sportswear.

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Tue Apr 11, 2006 12:36 pm

al? wrote:
DMike316 wrote: this kind of stuff happens in my backyard probably twice a month. I'm sure you Canadians knew this though because where you live (S'up Polar Bear invested chunk of ice) eight dead guys is news. Around here, eight dead guys is called just getting started. Call me whenever you have guys like, ohh, Gary "Green River" Ridgeway clipping people in your neighborhood. Tools.

Wow.

You live in a place where society has denegrated to the point where 8 murders don't get even a page 6. You're my hero.

or not

Wow.

You are really fucking clueless.

al? · Post by **al?** » Tue Apr 11, 2006 5:23 pm

Why, for not bragging about how cool I am because of all the murders in my neighborhood?

I guess.

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Tue Apr 11, 2006 5:57 pm

DMike316 wrote: :HUGEFUCKINGROLLEYES:

Where do I even start?

One of my buddies is pretty high up on the Hell's Angels food chain because, you know, around here we're pretty much KNOWN as the bad-ass biker Capital of the planet.
Anyhow, while sipping some of his world reknowned blended wine AND grapling with power tool wielding rabid gargoyles, he commented on this and ~ Shocker ~ this kind of stuff happens in my backyard probably twice a month. I'm sure you Canadians knew this though because where you live (S'up Polar Bear invested chunk of ice) eight dead guys is news. Around here, eight dead guys is called just getting started. Call me whenever you have guys like, ohh, Gary "Green River" Ridgeway clipping people in your neighborhood. Tools.

- Dinsdale

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Tue Apr 11, 2006 6:10 pm

Fucking A, al?.

I was willing to bear the full brunt of an impeding pile-on. I was kind of looking forward to it, actually.

But here you've gone and stolen my thunder.

The Whistle Is Screaming · Tue Apr 11, 2006 6:13 pm

Dinsdale wrote:Fucking A, al?.

I was willing to bear the full brunt of an impeding pile-on. I was kind of looking forward to it, actually.

But here you've gone and stolen my thunder.

Stupidness is a great weapon!

Cigned,
Ciceroo

T1B

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