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still a great record. i'm having a wicked deja vu i posted this before at some other time, much like this. late. completely sober. so be it.

i always liked up on the sun too. anything after was kind of cheesy, they were still good live--something to be respected about a trio that can DO it live. saw Curt Kirkwood's "project" (forget what it was called--Eyes wide something--or maybe i'm thinking of Kubrick) at a small place about 4 years ago....it was alright. sounded kind of like you'd think it would.

one of the high points of my indie-dom was buying a MP T-shirt from Derrick Bostrom who was sitting oustide the venure behind a folding table unrecognized, wearing full grown size Masters of the Universe feet pajamas. it was 6 bucks. that was the out my way "tour". she's hot was a pretty good tune off that EP, the rest was not that great. i got stoned with him and Curt in their Winnebago.

edit: bottom line: i don't think they get the indie/SST credit they deserve. they put out a lot of later crap which is what most people know (backwater)..........but you could buy REM records at Target in 1990.

I was into a bunch of SST bands. Screaming Trees, Minutemen, Bad Brains, Black Flag, Husker Du...

Never really knew anybody into the Meat Puppets. Still know next to nothing of them. Suggest some songs that I should dl.

back in the day i saw the puppets upwards of 20 times in divey college bars. unfortunately the mtv world of radio was not ready for them when they had their best stuff going. jimmy eat world and the gin blossums getted more airplay, but if you go into any independant record store in phx/tempe , the puppets are legends. rightfully so.

bace, meat puppets II might as well be a greatest hits album. download the whole friggin thing.

yeah, they played everywhere. all the time. i probably saw them 10 times myself. i had a Maxell cassette of MEat Puppets and Meat Puppets II that i played for a whole summer in my car stereo working some crappy landscaping job*, on auto-reverse (or whatever it was called, that technological marvel where you didn't have to take the tape out and turn it over).--81 Cutlass Supreme, in no way pimped out or cool. great power steering, wiper delay, and cruise control.

*on reflection, crappy landscaping job wasn't that bad. lots of hard, weird work....but equal amounts of unsupervised goof off time.

as far as DL i'd go with the whole LP, why not? obviously Nirvana did Lake of Fire and maybe Plateau on the unplugged deal....and the Minutemen did Lost on 3 way tie. those are Puppies songs all from II. the production value is also particularly good, which was not always a given "inna day".

speaking of Screaming Trees, i listened to Buzz Factory a couple weeks back at my mom's over teh holidays. i've got a few boxes of vinyl at her place. it stands up awwright over the years. purple vinyl to boot.

also, FWIW. i really like Up on the Sun--that's a really good record. the musicianship (more than II) really stands out.

i always liked the cover art on Huevos, but it's a pretty average record. or maybe it's sunday AM and i'm hungry.

the Meat Puppets were awesome. I loved their first three releases. When Up on the Sun came out, I spun it over and over for months. I still listen to it fairly often.

They were always crazy live, playing everything three times as fast.

If the one brother isn't dead, I'd be surprised. He was strung out big time.

the dead milkman in same ilk?

PSUFAN wrote:the Meat Puppets were awesome. I loved their first three releases. When Up on the Sun came out, I spun it over and over for months. I still listen to it fairly often.

They were always crazy live, playing everything three times as fast.

If the one brother isn't dead, I'd be surprised. He was strung out big time.

Dudes in prison. Some chick stole his parking space at the post office. He got pissed, followed her in,assaulted a postal guard, and got 21 months back in 8-04. due out this year I'd guess.

And yeah, he was a major heroin addict.

mothster wrote:the dead milkman in same ilk?

i don't know much about the DM, but i wouldn't say so. the puppies, while prodigeous stoners, were deceptively also a pretty tight outfit....and i once knew (in Boulder) a guy named organic Dave i met at a free Krishna meal (Krishna food sucks to high heaven) who almost, ALMOST, admitted to me that he thought Curt Kirkwood was a better guitarist than Jerry. it was a dark spot in his soul.

if the world wasn't so screwed up, i figure their natural progression would have been into some kind of country and western weirdo cult pedal steel band. kind of like Gram Parsons sitting in with a bunch of tejanos ripping off/turning inside out early ZZ Top tunes like mexican blackbird...wearing matching outfits with a lot of fringe and hats and stuff.

but none of the puppets could sing. and it was the early 80's....when everything sucked, don't let the MTV-nostalgia heads convince you otherwise.

like a lot of the "indie bands" of that time, they just came out of nowhere.

and nowhere was Arizona, Minneapolis, Athens, San Pedro, Norman (the Flaming Lips)....and a lot of other places that weren't New York City or LA.


OK, Romanticism trip over.

Speaking of Bostrom, this thread inspired a googling that resulted in me finding his blog:

http://www.derrickbostrom.com/puppets/

PSUFAN wrote:Speaking of Bostrom, this thread inspired a googling that resulted in me finding his blog:

http://www.derrickbostrom.com/puppets/

if there is a better rock lyric than: "Elenore Moth-god, daughter of the hot-rod".....i quit.

good point.