Its Official

Sirfindafold · Post by **Sirfindafold** » Tue Jan 03, 2006 9:48 pm

norvell's gone.

Raydah James · Post by **Raydah James** » Tue Jan 03, 2006 10:16 pm

KC Paul 3.0 wrote:You ruined RaydahFan's big moment. Shame on you.

SFF is a member of our beloved Raidernation.

Bye Norv. Fucking loser.

I pray Al doesnt fuck up our next hire royally.

chowd103 · Post by **chowd103** » Tue Jan 03, 2006 10:29 pm

Damn.

Flawed Logic · Post by **Flawed Logic** » Tue Jan 03, 2006 10:34 pm

It had to happen.

Collins is next.

Raydah James · Post by **Raydah James** » Tue Jan 03, 2006 10:35 pm

RACK Chowd

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Tue Jan 03, 2006 10:48 pm

I believe Collins will take a sharp pay-reduction and be back to 'compete' for the job in pre-season.

I am ALL about finding a way to get Steve McNair to Oakland.

I think he could give us a year or two of what we need most......LEADERSHIP, along with a lot of toughness, smarts, and savvy.

If Collins is not our QB then what options do we have....?

Walter..?

Are we ready to throw the kid to the wolves...?

Likely lookin' at 6-10 or worse if that happens.

Then again, we might be lookin' at that anyway.
My trend of late is toward pessimism.
Can't blame me, can ya...?

Any other QBs set to be on the market...?

Jeff Garcia...?
Kurt Warner...?
Jon Kitna..?
David Carr, maybe, but doubtful, IMO...?

Who else...?

Not a lot of good vets out there.

I think Collins come back.

Mississippi Neck · Post by **Mississippi Neck** » Tue Jan 03, 2006 11:10 pm

poptart wrote:IDavid Carr, maybe, but doubtful, IMO...?

.

I heard Bob McNair on AM 610 say he was probably going to give Carr that $8 mill bonus..

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Tue Jan 03, 2006 11:42 pm

KC Paul 3.0 wrote: Pat Hill???

I guess we can look forward to Oakland rolling up plenty of moral victories next season then.

Raydah James · Post by **Raydah James** » Tue Jan 03, 2006 11:49 pm

poptart wrote:
I am ALL about finding a way to get Steve McNair to Oakland.

The titans have already said that his insane cap number makes him impossible to keep. Al is a fucking idiot if he doesnt try to get this tough motherfucker in the silver and black. He's got at least 2 good years left in him.

Plus, he can scramble when our shit o-line breaks down. Again.

I think Collins come back.

I think you've lost your mind. If Collins comes back Raidernation will go L.A. Riot up in the Colliseum next season.

The Assassin · Post by **The Assassin** » Tue Jan 03, 2006 11:59 pm

Good riddance Norv.

McNair is a question mark because quite frankly the guy cant stay healthy. Whoever our new coach is *russ Grimm cough* needs to be allowed the freedom to run this team as he sees fit. If that means letting longtime assistants Freddie B,and Willie Brown go,so be it. We need to get back to winning football games and the vertical game just aint doing it.

Raydah James · Post by **Raydah James** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 12:03 am

The Assassin wrote:Whoever our new coach is *russ Grimm cough* needs to be allowed the freedom to run this team as he sees fit.

I laughed. Hard.

Al is our owner, remember?

You've certainly got the right idea though-too bad it will never happen.

Art Shell?

BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA! Another fucking puppet......excellent.

Felix · Post by **Felix** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 12:05 am

Dinsdale wrote:
I guess we can look forward to Oakland rolling up plenty of moral victories next season then.

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 12:17 am

Believe me, I'm not a big Collins guy, and he shares a part of the blame for this abortion of a season. I'm saying that somebody has to be under center, and unless you're throwing the kid Walter out there then we better have a better option in mind than Collins, otherwise he is the guy.

I think McNair would be good for a few reasons, which I quickly touched on before. Also, having McNair would allow Walter time to learn more of the NFL game, study under a former MVP, until he is more ready to take the reigns himself.

McNair is prolly a pipe dream....crack pipe......but hey, I'm trying.

Mike Singletary.

Pat Hill, possible.

Authuh Shell, doubtful.

T REX · Post by **T REX** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 12:51 am

How's that Chucky trade working out for you guys...........

Raydah James · Post by **Raydah James** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 12:59 am

T REX wrote:How's that Chucky trade working out for you guys...........

Shut your fucking meat missile shiners you smackless cunt.

Arent you the same bitch who cried about Chucky needing to be 'fired' last season after getting your asses tapped all year and missing the playoffs?

Yes.

You were also the cock smuggling fuckjuice deposit who said chucky won with "dungys" players and would never win jack shit before being fired from tampon.

I'll enjoy your teams assblasting they will be taking this week greatly.

Fucking pussy.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 1:02 am

T REX wrote:How's that Chucky trade working out for you guys...........

Rack!

Funny thing is in two more years when the Faiders are firing their next coach you can ask the same thing and it will still be funny.

Trading Gruden will eventually rival Marcus Allen as the worst move in Chokeland history.

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 1:53 am

RACKeth James.

Trixxxie's got all the
substance of an 87 cent
bobber. Floating out on
the open water, she's at
the mercy of the elements
around her. Drift this way,
drift that way. She can
be bounced around by
the slightest of currents.
Taken under by even
the lowest thinkers on
planet earth. She's a shell,
hollow, empty inside. She is
a nothing, a pawn. One to
be used and discarded.

Categorically unable to
formulate meaningful
thought for herself, she
is a slave to whims and
fetishes of the greater
minds. Trixxie elucidates
nothing of meaning. She
has NO depth of football
knowlege. No, none. So
what is her role? She is a
bimbo cheerleader of sorts,
sans the skirt, slut make-up,
and pretty ribbon in the hair....
...presumably. As such, her
sputterings do little more
than serve as fodder and
amusement for the masses.

Yeah, I hear ya, 'farting.

Guess Al should have let the guy go without getting anything for him.

Why, no need to trade the man, heaven forbid.

Nobody needs 4 draft picks.

Nobody needs to later parlay a traded-for pick into acquiring a player such as Randy Moss.

Naaah....let him walk.

chowd103 · Post by **chowd103** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 2:19 am

Raydah James wrote:cock smuggling fuckjuice deposit

Good God! Just when you think you heard it all.

kcdave · Post by **kcdave** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 2:19 am

Holy fuggin Jesus H Titty Christ pops. Steve McNair? Try raising your expectations a little bit.

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 2:40 am

McNair of '06 isn't the same player as McNair of '03.
There's some tread off the tires.
Most telling is that he's now running the ball for only about 30% of the yards he did a few years back.
Do I think he'll end up in Oakland...?
No, doubt it, but it IS a possibility.
There are cap issues with the Titans and McNair, and it is possible that they will bid goodbye and move on with Billy Volek.
If that happens, McNair will have other suitors, of course.
Moss, Porter and the 'duds could have some appeal.
Then again, maybe not.

Dreamin', so humor me.

Mister Bushice · Post by **Mister Bushice** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 2:55 am

You guys don't actually believe this revolving door philosophy of players and coaches will ever result in a post season appearance or for that matter a successful season, do you?

As long as Al is still around, the raiders will provide the rest of us with a sense of satisfaction each and every football season. No Raiderfan gloating to suffer through.

But congrats in advance on winning next years superbowl anyway. ;)

T REX · Post by **T REX** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 3:03 am

Raydah James wrote:
T REX wrote:How's that Chucky trade working out for you guys...........
Shut your fucking meat missile shiners you smackless cunt.

Arent you the same bitch who cried about Chucky needing to be 'fired' last season after getting your asses tapped all year and missing the playoffs?

Yes.

You were also the cock smuggling fuckjuice deposit who said chucky won with "dungys" players and would never win jack shit before being fired from tampon.

I'll enjoy your teams assblasting they will be taking this week greatly.

Fucking pussy.

I have NEVER EVER called for Chucky's head. Dude is a fucking genius. he got over on your bitch ass team....twice. First getting out from under Darth ALice then rocking your shitstained team up and down teh streets of San Diego.

Now, don't cry like the little bitch you are. Tuck that labia in and take it liek a man. YOUR FRANCHISE WAS ABUSED BY TB. You got the shaft.....just like you like it.

Now, stop making up quotes OR produce them you whining bleeding cunt.

PS Love the raider meltdown.........

I say again.....how did that chucky trade work out for you guys......

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 3:12 am

trixxie wrote:I have NEVER EVER called for Chucky's head.

T REX · Post by **T REX** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 1:35 pm

poptart wrote:
trixxie wrote:I have NEVER EVER called for Chucky's head.

produce any quote.....please......same tards that say i am someone else.....

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 7:09 pm

Posted by T REX at Smackboard on Nov 29, '04 & Dec 21, '04

He (Gruden) has made some questionable moves since winning the SB. His hubris is off the scale. His ego ate him months ago. I think winning that SB turned him into Jesus(in his mind). Walk on water? No problem. We'll bring in John the Baptist at WR and an old skeleton at LT. You know how he likes his vets. Garner? Washed up. Brown? Washed up. Steussie? Old and decrepit. How he lets OUR old players go.....I have no idea. Instead of keeping our decent old players; he trades them for older worse players. I am sure they'll catch him in the cemetary digging up future draft choices.

I never thought I would say this, but what the hell is going on in TB!!!!????

Then dump him (Gruden) and his old fucking piece of shit retread players he brings in.

We are the first team in the history of the NFL to have two losing seasons after a SB win. The first. That is pathetic.

Self-professed genius Chucky is now 4-14 in games decided by 7 points or less.......nice.

His new name is CHOKEY in the Bay Area.

Wipe the slate clean and let's start over.

There's prolly more, but that is good enough.

You run your mouth too much, and you're the worst kind of fan ....... an ankle-biting bandwagoner.

Trixxxie = pwned

Sirfindafold · Post by **Sirfindafold** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 7:34 pm

epic.

Raydah James · Post by **Raydah James** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 7:36 pm

poptart wrote:
Trixxxie = pwned

[marq=left]RAXX0RZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11[/marq]

Also, RACK you for taking the few minutes out to find one of the many TurdslotRecked meltdowns. Personally, I could give two fucks about tracking down info from a bottom feeding smackless slunt like him, I just knew that it was said multiple times over at our other board.

Once again, TurnsTrixx shows what a useless fucking gimp of a bitch he really is.......as if there was ever any fucking doubt to begin with.

T REX · Post by **T REX** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 12:49 am

BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fucking tard troupe scores again. he does have a huge ego. He more than redeemed himself. Sorry, but where does it say that I said to fire him. Gru is teh first person to say he made mistakes with teh olds dudes. He went draft and look where it got him.....Clayton and Caddy not to mention Simms.

Fuck, he's done better with less draqft picks.

SOUR GRAPES BECAUSE RAIDER BITCHES GOT OWNED. YOUR FRANCHISE SUCKS. YOUR FRANCHISE IS STILL REBUILDING.

BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Raider nation.........

How's that chucky trade working out for you......

Raydah James · Post by **Raydah James** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 12:55 am

T REX wrote: Sorry, but where does it say that I said to fire him

poptart quoting TRixx from our other board wrote:Then dump him (Gruden) and his old fucking piece of shit retread players he brings in.

PWNED!!!!!!11

Your new position in this argument is waiting, bitch:

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 1:02 am

TRex said:

I have NEVER EVER called for Chucky's head. Dude is a fucking genius

Now, stop making up quotes OR produce them you whining bleeding cunt.

Poptart did as challenged:

dump him (Gruden) and his old fucking piece of shit retread players he brings in.

Game ..set...match.

Poptart said:

Guess Al should have let the guy go without getting anything for him.

Why, no need to trade the man, heaven forbid.

Nobody needs 4 draft picks.

Nobody needs to later parlay a traded-for pick into acquiring a player such as Randy Moss.

Naaah....let him walk.

That's the thing Poptart. Many Raider fans in here seem to be of the opinion that Gruden was gone regardless. Why is that?

Why was he not extended when he established himself as one of the hottest coaches in the game?

Because Al is a cheap fucker who was jealous of the attention Chucky was getting.

The Gruden situation became what it was because Alice allowed it too.

Other teams take care of their coaches and front office people.

Not only was Chucky shown the door but Bruce Allen followed soon after being named executive of the year no less.

That speaks volumes to me.

The inmates are clearly running the assylum in Chokeland.

You will never win that way.

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 1:23 am

The whole Gruden/Davis thing is played out, to say the very least.

Al might have done things differently to have Gruden want to stay on.
Gruden might have done things differently to stay on.
It didn't happen.
Maybe Al hated Gruden.
Maybe Gruden hated Al.
Al traded him when he knew he wasn't coming back, and he got what he could for a lame duck coach.
Gruden took the Bucs to a Super Bowl win over Oakland with 'Dungy's team.
Bill Callahan took Oakland a step further than Gruden did, to a Super Bowl appearance, with 'Gruden's team'.
That fact is often not spoken of.
The great Bill Callahan.
Moss in Oakland now is a by-product of the Gruden trade.
Oakland is struggling.
Tampa, after a couple of losing seasons, is in the playoffs for the first time since it's Super Bowl win.
Oakland has it's own business to take care of.
Tampa Bay has it's own business to take care of.
Life has moved on.....a long time ago.

The end.

Trixxxie's ass is sore.

T REX · Post by **T REX** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 1:39 pm

Sore?

Yeah....the playoffs, the super bowl, the......nevermind.

Have fun at your draft party.

PS Hows that chucky trade working out for you.....

The Assassin · Post by **The Assassin** » Sun Jan 08, 2006 8:16 am

T REX wrote:Sore?

Yeah....the playoffs, the super bowl, the......nevermind.

Have fun at your draft party.

PS Hows that chucky trade working out for you.....

I missed it,,how'd you guys do in your home playoff game today? :twisted:

Aaron in Tucson · Post by **Aaron in Tucson** » Sun Jan 08, 2006 2:17 pm

Flawed Logic wrote:It had to happen.

Collins is next.

Agreed.

If Collins takes a drastic reduction in pay (a partial admission of guilt for the abortion of a season) and Al Davis builds the best possible line thru free agency this off season then I think the hometown fans in Oakland will give Collins another shot to fall on his face without rioting…for a few weeks anyways.

Personally, I can’t see that fucker ran fast enough.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Who's Next?

Some names, both realistic and unrealist, which could surface as the Raiders begin a search for a head coach to replace Norv Turner:
From the recycling bin:
Possible candidates with head coaching experience who are already free to pursue other jobs or could come free within a week:

Jim Fassel, Ravens offensive coordinator: Fassel, 56, coached the New York Giants from 1997-2003 and helped Kerry Collins rebuild his career. Head coach at Utah, 1985-89; Offensive assistant for Oakland Raiders, 1995. NFL record 60-56.

Jim Haslett, Saints head coach: Haslett, 50, was fired as head coach of the New Orleans Saints Monday. Assistant coach with Los Angeles Raiders in 1993-94. Backround is as defensive coach. Bills insiders say Haslett longs for that job. NFL record 46-52.

Mike Martz, Rams head coach: Martz, 54, went on medical leave after five games and was fired Monday. Al Davis says Martz's health a concern. The coach of the Rams since 2000, employs Don Coryell system favored by Norv Turner. He was Turner's quarterbacks coach in Washington in 1997-98. NFL record 57-36.

Steve Mariucci, unemployed: Mariucci, 50, was fired by the Detroit Lions Thanksgiving weekend after being hired in 2003. Head coach of San Francisco 49ers from 1997-2002. Head coach at Cal in 1996. Players coach with West Coast offense backround. NFL record 75-71.

Butch Davis, unemployed: Davis, 53, resigned as Cleveland Browns head coach in 2004 after being hired in 2000. Head coach at University of Miami from 1995-2000; assistant with Dallas Cowboys from 1989-94, the last two years as defensive coordinator. Rumored to be a Raiders candidate in past years. NFL record: 24-36.

Dave McGinnis, Titans linebackers coach: McGinnis, 54, was enormously popular with the players as head coach with Arizona Cardinals from 2000-2003. Respected as a defensive coach, McGinnis' 1998 Arizona defense had 39 takeaways and helped get Cardinals in playoffs. NFL record 17-40.

Dennis Green, Cardinals head coach: Green, 56, interviewed with the Raiders in 2004 but took Arizona job the following week. Said last week he is staying in Arizona. He also said in his last year at Stanford he wasn't going to the NFL, then was hired by the Vikings. NFL record 112-91.

Wade Phillips, Chargers defensive coordinator: Phillips, 58, has been a head coach in New Orleans (1985), Denver (1993-94), Buffalo (1998-2000) and Atlanta (three games in 2003). Bum's son could be a candidate in Houston. NFL record 48-42.

Herm Edwards, Jets head coach: Edwards, 51, says he does not plan to leave New York but persistent reports link him to Kansas City. NFL record 41-44.

Mike Tice, unemployed: Tice, 46, was fired Sunday after serving as head coach since 2002. Tice suffered enough trials and tribulations as Vikings head coach to make him uniquely qualified to be head coach of the Raiders. NFL record 33-34.

Jimmy Johnson, unemployed: Johnson, 62, is former Dolphins and Cowboys coach is an Al Davis confidant who has shown no inclination to return to coaching. Works as an analyst for Fox. NFL record 89-68.

Dennis Erickson, unemployed: Erickson, 58, is relaxing while the 49ers pay off his contract but is eager to get back into coaching. Head coach at Seattle from 1995-98 and 49ers in 2003-2004. Head coach at Washington State and University of Miami. NFL record 40-56.

Mike Sherman, unemployed: Sherman, 52, had four consecutive seasons of 10 or more wins with the Green Bay Packers before going 4-12 in 2005 and getting fired Monday. NFL record 59-43.

Dom Capers, unemployed: Capers, 56, could not work the expansion magic with the Texans as he did with the Carolina Panthers. Fired Monday after a 4-12 season, 18-46 in four years with Houston. Won AFC West title with second-year Panthers in 1996. NFL record 49-81.

A second chance with Al:
Those who interviewed with Raiders owner Al Davis before and could be back for a second look:

Al Saunders, Chiefs offensive coordinator: Saunders, 58, is second-in-command to Chiefs coach Dick Vermeil and a candidate for vacant Chiefs job. Interviewed by phone with Raiders in 2004, but decided to sign an extension with the Chiefs with an eye on being head coach in Kansas City. Chargers head coach 1986-88. NFL record 17-22.

Sean Payton, Cowboys passing game coordinator: Payton, 43, interviewed twice in 2004 and was believed to be close to taking the job, although Davis said it was never actually offered. New York Giants assistant from 1999-2002 while Kerry Collins was quarterback. Quarterbacks coach for offensive coordinator Jon Gruden with Philadelphia Eagles in 1997.

Maurice Carthon, Browns offensive coordinator: Carthon, 44, worked on New York Jets staff with Bill Belichick and Bill Parcells from 1997-2000, joined Parcells on Cowboys staff in 2003. Hard-nosed with a fiery personality.

Greg Knapp, Falcons offensive coordinator: Knapp, 42, was a 49ers assistant from 1995-03, eventually running the offense. Interviewed with Raiders in 2004, but opted to join Jim Mora with Atlanta.

Art Shell, NFL Senior V.P. of operations and development: Shell, 59, last coached 11 years ago, fired by Al Davis after going 9-7 in 1994. He interviewed in 1998 for job that went to Jon Gruden and interviewed with Miami last season. NFL record 56-41.

The hot assistants:
Assistants who could be making the rounds for interviews for NFL openings:

Rick Neuheisel, Ravens quarterbacks coach: Neuheisel, 44, has been at Raiders training camp practices in past years as an invited guest of Al Davis. Head coach at Colorado (1995-98) and Washington (1999-02) before being forced out for involvement in a high-stakes NCAA basketball pool.

Cam Cameron, Chargers offensive coordinator: Cameron, 44, has presided over one of the NFL's best offenses since 2002 under Marty Schottenheimer. Head coach at Indiana from 1997-2001.

Bob Bratkowski, Bengals offensive coordinator: Bratkowski, 50, has helped develop Carson Palmer into a Pro Bowl quarterback and has directed a balanced, explosive offense that helped put Cincinnati in the playoffs. Has no head coaching experience.

Gary Kubiak, Broncos offensive coordinator: Kubiak, 44, is to Mike Shanahan what Dave Duncan is to Tony La Russa. Was quarterbacks coach with 49ers in 1994, moving with Shanahan as offensive coordinator with Broncos in 1995. Believed to be ready to make the jump to head coach, and Houston has asked for an interview.

Brad Childress, Philadelphia Eagles offensive coordinator: Childress, 49, has run the offense for Andy Reid since 1999. Deep runs into the playoffs by Eagles have hurt his chances to be interviewed. That's not a problem this year. Has no head coaching experience.

Eric Mangini, New England Patriots defensive coordinator: Mangini, 34, declined an opportunity to become Raiders defensive coordinator, with club eventually hiring Rob Ryan. Disciple of Bill Belichick, all the way to alma mater (Wesleyan College). Has no head coaching experience.

Jim Schwartz, Titans defensive coordinator: Schwartz, 39, worked for Bill Belichick with 1995 Cleveland Browns and has been on Jeff Fisher's Tennessee staff since 1999. Has no head coaching experience.

Ron Rivera, Bears defensive coordinator: Rivera, 43, is a former Cal star who coached with the 1997-98 Bears and with the Eagles from 1999-2003. Directed stout Bears defense that led Chicago to NFC North title. Has no head coaching experience.

Scott Linehan, Dolphins offensive coordinator: Linehan, 42, directed an efficient Miami offense under Nick Saban after running the Minnesota Vikings offense from 2002-2004. Has experience getting the most out of Randy Moss. Has no head coaching experience.

Ken Whisenhunt, Steelers offensive coordinator, and Russ Grimm, Steelers offensive line coach: Whisenhunt, 43, and Grimm, 47, could both make the interview rounds once the Steelers are done. Detroit reportedly has interest in Grimm, a former Washington Redskins offensive lineman. Neither man has been a head coach.

Mike Heimerdinger, Jets offensive coordinator: Heimerdinger, 53, was linked to Raiders job in 2004 but said repeatedly he was never contacted. A Mike Shanahan disciple who worked with Broncos from 1995-99. Has no head coaching experience.

Tim Lewis, Giants defensive coordinator: Lewis, 44, was defensive coordinator for Pittsburgh from from 1995-2003 before joining the staff of Tom Coughlin in New York. Was a finalist last year for San Francisco 49ers job which went to Mike Nolan, and Atlanta job which went to Jim Mora. Has no head coaching experience.

Mike Singletary, 49ers linebackers coach: Singletary, 47, is a Hall of Fame linebacker and natural leader who didn't get into coaching until 2003 with the Baltimore Ravens. Serving as Mike Nolan's assistant head coach as well as linebackers coach, he aspires to be a head coach.

College coaches:
Some of the top names on the college scene:

Pete Carroll, USC: Carroll, 54, presides over college football's premiere program, has NFL experience as a head coach and an assistant and was born and raised in the Bay Area (Redwood High). He also agreed recently to stay at USC and would want more money and power in terms of personnel and coaches than Al Davis would be comfortable with. NFL record 33-31.

Karl Dorrell, UCLA: Dorrell, 42, led UCLA to an 11-2 season and has three seasons as wide receivers coach under Mike Shanahan in Denver (2000-2003).

Pat Hill, Fresno State: Hill, 54, has said he has no desire for another college job but possibly could be lured to the NFL. Served as Cleveland Browns assistant from 1992-98 (tight ends and offensive line), hired by Bill Belichick.

Kirk Ferentz, Iowa: Ferentz, 50, restored the Iowa program to prominence since being hired in 1998. Was offensive line coach for the Cleveland Browns-Baltimore Ravens from 1993-98, hired by Bill Belichick.

Jeff Tedford, Cal: Tedford, 44, inherited a 1-10 Bears team and has built it into a Pac-10 power. Known for developing quarterbacks and strong running games. Has no NFL experience.

Bobby Petrino, Louisville: Petrino, 44, is ambitious and offensive minded, leading one of the nation's most explosive offenses at Louisville. Served as quarterbacks coach and offensive coordinator with Jacksonville Jaguars from 1999-2001.

-- Compiled by Jerry McDonald