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I never wanted Her2.0 in the WH? You can’t just make stuff up. And I want smaller government than you do, and more importantly I vote for people who want smaller government than the people you vote for. So how am I part of the problem?







Because I want government to do different things than you is the answer in case you are struggling.

Screw_Michigan wrote: ↑Sat Apr 25, 2020 2:45 pm

Kierland wrote: ↑Sat Apr 25, 2020 2:31 pm as is screwy

I am? :?

Less so but yes, you are too centrist for me.

Kierland wrote: ↑Sat Apr 25, 2020 2:55 pm Less so but yes, you are too centrist for me.

Okay....

Left Seater wrote: ↑Sat Apr 25, 2020 2:47 pm No I blame people like you Screwy that want to continue to spend, spend, spend. Hell you wanted Pocahontas in the White House. The lady who wanted to massively increase spending and return us to foreign oil dependency.

And the stock market you mention that is up a good bit from when the Cheeto took office?

Lol, facts don't matter to you. Who needs facts when you can completely delude yourself?

Screw_Michigan wrote: ↑Sat Apr 25, 2020 3:04 pm

Kierland wrote: ↑Sat Apr 25, 2020 2:55 pm Less so but yes, you are too centrist for me.

Okay....

Don’t worry, you are way down on my list of people to fuck with because you get most shit right.

Screw_Michigan wrote: ↑Sat Apr 25, 2020 3:05 pm

Left Seater wrote: ↑Sat Apr 25, 2020 2:47 pm No I blame people like you Screwy that want to continue to spend, spend, spend. Hell you wanted Pocahontas in the White House. The lady who wanted to massively increase spending and return us to foreign oil dependency.

And the stock market you mention that is up a good bit from when the Cheeto took office?

Lol, facts don't matter to you. Who needs facts when you can completely delude yourself?

The facts are on my side, mr delusional.

Pocahontas supported:
Medicare for all
Green New Deal
Cancelling Federal Student Loan Debt
Free College for all

Pocahontas also said she would:
End all new offshore drilling leases
End all new leases for drilling on Federal Land
End all new leases for drilling on public land
End all Fracking on Day 1 of her Admin

So she wants to massively increase spending and increase our reliance on foreign oil. What part of that do you fail to comprehend?

My bet is you just ignore this like you do all things you can’t defend like NYTimes bias.

Kierland wrote: ↑Sat Apr 25, 2020 2:55 pm

Screw_Michigan wrote: ↑Sat Apr 25, 2020 2:45 pm

Kierland wrote: ↑Sat Apr 25, 2020 2:31 pm as is screwy

I am? :?

Less so but yes, you are too centrist for me.

Screwy may be many things, but centrist isn’t one of them. He would never support Ross Perot.

He is smack dab in the center. I mean in reality not like he is a centrist when compared to the general population. I think that is the mistake you are making.

I’m saying he could be further to the left easily.
You are saying not maybe people are.

Medicare for all-Yes
Green New Deal- Have not read it but I’m for killing oil and coal.
Cancelling Federal Student Loan Debt- Yes
Free College for all- Yes

End all new offshore drilling leases- Yes
End all new leases for drilling on Federal Land- Yes
End all new leases for drilling on public land- Yes we should pump it ourselves or sell the land if the oil MUST be pumped
End all Fracking on Day 1 of her Admin- Yes

So she wants to massively increase spending and increase our reliance on foreign oil. - not down for more spending and we need to shitcan oil, as long as we are picking winners and losers.

Not that you asked me.

If you are not down for more spending why do want all these things marked as yes?

Mostly because most don’t cost much if anything. And when I cut 500billion from defense and kill most of the Education dept and DEA and whatnot I’m Golden anyways.

And Fracking is probably dead anyways.

Like I said I would spend less from DC than you. I would just spend it way differently.

You are softball bat messed up in the head if you think free college, Medicare for all, etc won’t cost that much.

Further where do you get that fracking is dead? 50% of US production is from fracking. Then remove public and offshore production and we will import 80% or more of our oil/gas needs.

Ok how much do YOU think free college and M4A would cost.

Fracking is dead due to market forces of the last month. You remember Capitalism right?

Biden has claimed that Medicare for all would equal our entire Federal budget each year. Sanders said it would be between $30 and $40 Trillon over the next decade. So let’s assume that it is somewhere in between these and say $3.5 Trillon per year. Our current budget is around $4.1 Trillion per year.

So we would be damn lose to doubling our spending with just this one item. It would cost 85% of our current budget. Our in another look our spending would go from $4.1 Trillion per year to $7.6 Trillion per year.

This is with middle of the road numbers as well. If it is higher these numbers go up.


As for demand, yes it is down now due to government action regarding the ‘Rona flu. But when we get back to work fracking will continue to provide much of our supply.

You have been lying A LOT more than usual lately so I’m going to have to ask for some links.

And your final numbers could not be correct because they include those people on Medicare now, twice.

Kierland wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 5:34 am You have been lying A LOT more than usual lately so I’m going to have to ask for some links.

And your final numbers could not be correct because they include those people on Medicare now, twice.

Links?
Why bother?
You'll still deny it, even when the truth explodes down your throat.

An actual video of the Biden accusers' mother calling "LARRY King Live" on CNN 25 years ago!
AND, you'd find a way to deny that also.

Let's face it. You deny that OJ murdered those two beautiful people, despite the fact that his DNA was all over both of them.

You could find a way to explain why there's cum on your face as you're kissing your wife!

Kierland wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 5:34 am You have been lying A LOT more than usual lately so I’m going to have to ask for some links.

And your final numbers could not be correct because they include those people on Medicare now, twice.

Take the numbers up with Team D. You don’t think they considered those already on Medicare?


https://khn.org/news/does-medicare-for- ... rs-say-no/

I have never heard of kaiser news.

The Canadians do it for 5 grand a person. That is 1.5 trillion. Hardly a bank breaker.

Yeah because Canadians have long waits for many basic procedures. Lots of them come to the US if they can and pay out of pocket.

Excellent model to copy. But Team D’s won numbers say it will be vastly more expensive.

Further Canadians also have private insurance because their Medicare for all doesn’t cover medicine, medical equipment, home care, etc, etc, etc.

Left Seater wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 1:56 pm Yeah because Canadians have long waits for many basic procedures. Lots of them come to the US if they can and pay out of pocket.

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Left Seater wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 1:56 pm Yeah because Canadians have long waits for many basic procedures. Lots of them come to the US if they can and pay out of pocket.

Excellent model to copy. But Team D’s won numbers say it will be vastly more expensive.

Further Canadians also have private insurance because their Medicare for all doesn’t cover medicine, medical equipment, home care, etc, etc, etc.

So now you think it needs to cost more? So you just don’t want it. The cost really isn’t a problem is it?

As for Team D, again, I’m not on Team D. Not sure why that is not sinking in with you. Unless you just don’t want it to.

Kierland wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 3:37 pm

Left Seater wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 1:56 pm Yeah because Canadians have long waits for many basic procedures. Lots of them come to the US if they can and pay out of pocket.

Excellent model to copy. But Team D’s won numbers say it will be vastly more expensive.

Further Canadians also have private insurance because their Medicare for all doesn’t cover medicine, medical equipment, home care, etc, etc, etc.

So now you think it needs to cost more? So you just don’t want it. The cost really isn’t a problem is it?

As for Team D, again, I’m not on Team D. Not sure why that is not sinking in with you. Unless you just don’t want it to.

Stop lying!!!
You've been quoted several times as agreeing with several of Bernie Sanders policies.
From ANY logical perspective, that puts you on team D, whether you lie about it or not.

Or whether you like it or not.

I don’t think it needs to cost more, I am using Team D’s own numbers. Further Team D isn’t suggesting we copy Canada’s system so any comparison to Canada’s cost is irrelevant.

Once again I’m not on team D and have voted for one (that I regret voting for) in the last 30 yrs.

Try and not use red herrings in EVERY fucking post.

So to recap: It’s 2trillion including the 800 billion we spend Now so it’s 1.2 trillion in new expenses. Add in the savings to states and The VA and whatnot and it’s hardly a bank breaker in a country that just gave 4 trillion in one day to a few thousand people.

Kierland wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 4:04 pm Once again I’m not on team D and have voted for one (that I regret voting for) in the last 30 yrs.

Try and not use red herrings in EVERY fucking post.

So to recap: It’s 2trillion including the 800 billion we spend Now so it’s 1.2 trillion in new expenses. Add in the savings to states and The VA and whatnot and it’s hardly a bank breaker in a country that just gave 4 trillion in one day to a few thousand people.

Once again, you lie.
You are on team D, due to the fact that you openly approve of Bernie Sanders' policies.
Many of Bernie's policies align with team D.
In fact, team D is right now moving to get Bernie's voters on board with Alzheimer's Joe.

Point being?
You line up perfectly with these low IQ moron socialists.

Just type shit

3/9/2020...

Softball Bat wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 7:04 am A lot of people are going to die.

A lot of people are going to be destitute.

Many others will be hurting, physically and/or financially.

A number will be "okay," but will have had a huge chunk of their net worth shaved away, never to come back.



Some will be laughing...

U.S. Coronavirus Death Toll Is Far Higher Than Reported, C.D.C. Data Suggests

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/202 ... total.html

Total deaths in seven states that have been hard hit by the coronavirus pandemic are nearly 50 percent higher than normal for the five weeks from March 8 through April 11, according to new death statistics from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. That is 9,000 more deaths than were reported as of April 11 in official counts of deaths from the coronavirus.

The new data is partial and most likely undercounts the recent death toll significantly. But it still illustrates how the coronavirus is causing a surge in deaths in the places it has struck, probably killing more people than the reported statistics capture. If you look at the provisional deaths from all causes, death counts in New York, New Jersey, Michigan, Massachusetts, Illinois, Maryland and Colorado have spiked far above their normal levels for the period...





It is not only that corona is killing people, but the overall event is causing death.
As expected -- per my post.

The death, destitution, sadness, and teeth-gnashing is only getting warmed up.

Softball Bat wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 3:49 am 3/9/2020...

Softball Bat wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 7:04 am A lot of people are going to die.

A lot of people are going to be destitute.

Many others will be hurting, physically and/or financially.

A number will be "okay," but will have had a huge chunk of their net worth shaved away, never to come back.



Some will be laughing...

U.S. Coronavirus Death Toll Is Far Higher Than Reported, C.D.C. Data Suggests

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/202 ... total.html

Total deaths in seven states that have been hard hit by the coronavirus pandemic are nearly 50 percent higher than normal for the five weeks from March 8 through April 11, according to new death statistics from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. That is 9,000 more deaths than were reported as of April 11 in official counts of deaths from the coronavirus.

The new data is partial and most likely undercounts the recent death toll significantly. But it still illustrates how the coronavirus is causing a surge in deaths in the places it has struck, probably killing more people than the reported statistics capture. If you look at the provisional deaths from all causes, death counts in New York, New Jersey, Michigan, Massachusetts, Illinois, Maryland and Colorado have spiked far above their normal levels for the period...





It is not only that corona is killing people, but the overall event is causing death.
As expected -- per my post.

The death, destitution, sadness, and teeth-gnashing is only getting warmed up.

Actually?
Your post is unhinged and inaccurate.
The phase reopening of the country is currently underway.
We will now see my predictions come to fruition, while your predictions fall by the wayside.
The majority of the nation will be back on track by summer, with only a few states lagging behind.
I don't gloat, don't like to be a bragging arrogant prick, BUT, this is one time where I will deserve a pat on the back, with universal praise from my peers.
See you in October for the presidential debates, with Alzheimer's Joe heavily medicated. And on November 3rd for an historic re-election.

Softball Bat wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 3:49 amThe death, destitution, sadness, and teeth-gnashing is only getting warmed up.

Haven’t you heard? Dump and CronyCapitalism have this all under control. Relax.

Kierland wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 4:30 am

Softball Bat wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 3:49 amThe death, destitution, sadness, and teeth-gnashing is only getting warmed up.

Haven’t you heard? Dump and CronyCapitalism have this all under control. Relax.

By summer.
Summer lovin'
Summer nights.
https://youtu.be/ZW0DfsCzfq4[/youtube]

Nice post short bus.

Kierland wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 4:35 am Nice post short bus.

Summertime....and the livin' is easy.
Fish are jumpin', and the cotton is high.
Oh, you're daddy is rich and you're ma is good-lookin'
So hush little Kierland, don't you cry.

Great job Janye the lesbian

Softball Bat wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 3:49 am
The death, destitution, sadness, and teeth-gnashing is only getting warmed up.

Ok, so how many deaths should we expect?

In 2019, “Natural increase” — the difference between births and deaths — in the U.S. population fell below 1 million in 2019 for the first time in decades, according to Census Bureau estimates.

Click -----> https://www.npr.org/2019/12/31/79273785 ... -a-century

The gap between births and deaths will narrow even more in 2020 and 2021.



It is beyond evident that America will be facing some very dark, ugly, tumultuous days moving forward.

Brace yourself, stay physically well, and use common sense.

Left Seater wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 12:52 pm Ok, so how many deaths should we expect?

Too bad for you this is an irrelevant question. What matters is the final death toll, 50,000 and climbing rapidly. And it will be attributed to no one else but BTOM.

Sucks for you, but that's life.

Screw_Michigan wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 1:41 pm

Left Seater wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 12:52 pm Ok, so how many deaths should we expect?

Too bad for you this is an irrelevant question. What matters is the final death toll, 50,000 and climbing rapidly.

Are you having a stroke? You claim my question is irrelevant, then in the next breath say it matters. Go to a hospital now!

Of course none of those deaths are on Cuomo’s hands in your warped world.


Meanwhile the question still stands for our expert prognosticator, how many deaths should we expect?

How many are on Dump’s tinyhands.

The market had the best month since 1987....


Also...for Trust Fund Baby Kierfag....Tesla back up to $800/share!!!


Elon called all the Dumbokunt governors FASCISTS!!!!!


Trump is the Federalist that gives the States the Right to make their own decision..
Blue Dumbokunt FASCISTS are the FASCISTS!!!!!

Kierland wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:04 pm How many are on Dump’s tinyhands.

how can someone like you, with little girl hands and feet, make fun of anyone?