Trump/GOP bullshit

[Left Seater]

Nice strawman arguement there Softball. I asked about it being visible at your house and not mine at the same time. Your response was to ignore that.

[Jay in Phoenix]

The Moon illusion is an optical illusion which causes the Moon to appear
larger near the horizon than it does higher up in the sky.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon_illusion



Is it only closer to earth when we see it on our horizon??
It is also closer to earth when it is up in our sky, right?

Is something wrong with you?

No and wrong.

https://www.space.com/34714-supermoon-s ... -moon.html

[Mikey]

Here's an idea, that's maybe too logical for the folks around here.

Next time there's a full moon, grab a ruler. Hold the ruler at arm's length and measure the diameter of the moon once when it's on the horizon and once when it's overhead.

Come back here and report the results.

[Mikey]

Here's an idea, that's maybe too logical for the folks around here.

Next time there's a full moon, grab a ruler. Hold the ruler at arm's length and measure the diameter of the moon once when it's on the horizon and once when it's overhead.

Come back here and report the results.

I going to guess that some people are going to assert that due to the location of their shoulders, the position of the ruler is different relative to their eyes and that explains why the fucking moon is the same size in the sky as it is at the horizon.

Good point. I hadn't thought of that.

You might be able to adapt one of these:

[Softball Bat]

Nice strawman arguement there Softball. I asked about it being visible at your house and not mine at the same time. Your response was to ignore that.

We were not done with with the moon illusion and YOU changed the subject.

I'll get to it.

[Dinsdale]

I'll get to it.

SWEET!

A science lesson from Softball Bat!!!!

It offers great perspective... in that it almost makes LTS seem like he understands basic science.

[Softball Bat]

The Moon illusion is an optical illusion which causes the Moon to appear
larger near the horizon than it does higher up in the sky.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon_illusion



Is it only closer to earth when we see it on our horizon??
It is also closer to earth when it is up in our sky, right?

Is something wrong with you?

No and wrong.

https://www.space.com/34714-supermoon-s ... -moon.html

Jay, you are not fooling anyone who cares to pay attention here.

We are not talking about a supermoon, we are talking about the moon illusion.


From NASA...

Why does a rising Moon look much bigger than the same Moon seen high in the sky during
the middle of the night? Turns out, it doesn’t—and we can blame the illusion on the way
our eye-brain combination behaves. Want proof that it’s just an illusion? Follow the steps
below for a do-it-yourself test...

https://moon.nasa.gov/observe-the-moon/ ... -it-rises/



The moon is bigger on the horizon than up in the sky.
NASA says this is what our eyes see.





Eject, Jay.

[Softball Bat]

I'll get to it.

SWEET!

A science lesson from Softball Bat!!!!

It offers great perspective... in that it almost makes LTS seem like he understands basic science.

Oh, feel free to offer your takes.
Will be entertaining, I am sure.

So far you've just driven by and shit the bed.


Wanna quote the Bible some more?



rotf...

[Softball Bat]

More-or-less, that is what happens, yes.

I detect a wiggle. Care to explain the "more-or-less" qualifier? Are you suggesting that what is visible to you and what is hidden behind objects in your line of sight (i.e., not visible to you) is sometimes NOT a function of your viewing position?

Good grief, you are a lawyer, aren't you?

No wiggle at all from me.

It is ALL on your end.

Trying to play "gotcha!"

Stupid shit.


Produce your take or stfu.

You're tedious.

[Softball Bat]

Here's an idea, that's maybe too logical for the folks around here.

Next time there's a full moon, grab a ruler. Hold the ruler at arm's length and measure the diameter of the moon once when it's on the horizon and once when it's overhead.

Come back here and report the results.

NASA says they have done it.

https://moon.nasa.gov/observe-the-moon/ ... -it-rises/



NASA is god.

[Softball Bat]

Which direction is she spinning?










Clockwise or counterclockwise?

[Dinsdale]

Oh, feel free to offer your takes.

No way, Jose.

Yours are much better.

From you, we've learned that the earth's atmosphere is a vacuum (if only there was a way to prove this, beyond breathing).

And that the Bible is a science book.

And that a quadratic equation describes the arc of a circle.

And objects disappear in the distance because of the scientific phenomenon of "vanishing point" (despite telescopes).

I mean, you're a veritable fountain of knowledge.

By all means, please continue.

[Dinsdale]

Clockwise or counterclockwise?

Neither.

It's 2 dimensional... which gives it a 2-1 advantage over you.

[Softball Bat]

Oh, feel free to offer your takes.

No way, Jose.

Yours are much better.

From you, we've learned that the earth's atmosphere is a vacuum (if only there was a way to prove this, beyond breathing).

And that the Bible is a science book.

And that a quadratic equation describes the arc of a circle.

And objects disappear in the distance because of the scientific phenomenon of "vanishing point" (despite telescopes).

I mean, you're a veritable fountain of knowledge.

By all means, please continue.

You are lying out your ass.

Not surprising.

FACT is your ass was kicked HARD when you tried to dispute that the rate of earth curvature I repeatedly posted was accurate.


Did you ever figure out (after 2 years) what the earth curvature rate is for your globe?

Please, inform us.

I have been waiting two years for you to grow a pair of nuts.


lol




Dinsdale is a mess.

[Softball Bat]

And that the Bible is a science book.

Link us up.






#Liar

[Dinsdale]

Sane People: Damn, that Softball Bat guy just couldn't be any dumber. No way he can top his last dumbassery.

Poptart: Hold my beer!

[Softball Bat]

Sane People: Dinsdale produced no link and he produced no earth curvature rate.

[Dinsdale]

And that the Bible is a science book.

Link us up.

Have you ever asked them where the waters above the sun, moon, and stars are located?

It's on this very page... dumbass.

[Softball Bat]

No, it isn't.

Nor have you ever had balls (or brains) enough to post the earth curvature rate.
Post it.
What' wrong?

Nor have you linked me to where I ever claimed that the Bible is a science text.




#dumbass

[Softball Bat]

No more fl@t earth discussion from me until one of the globe worshippers answers the following basic question.

What is the rate of curvature per mile on your globe.




ty - hugs and kisses

[Dinsdale]

curvature per mile

We'll add "geometry" to your areas of expertise, along with "algebra."

[Softball Bat]

http://www.davidsenesac.com/Information ... sight.html

The Earth has a radius of approximately 3965 miles. Using the Pythagorean theorem, that calculates to an average curvature of 7.98 inches per mile or approximately 8 inches per mile (squared).

- David Senesac



http://mathcentral.uregina.ca/qq/databa ... dyck2.html

Hence the earth's surface curves approximately 8 inches in one mile. Look at our response to Shirley to see what happens after the first mile.

- Math Central



https://books.google.co.kr/books?id=l5I ... e.&f=false

The true level being a curve line which falls below the straight line of apparent level about 8 inches in one mile; 32 inches in two miles, etc., the curvature always augmenting in proportion to the square of the distance.

- The Complete Mathematical and General Navigation Tables



https://books.google.co.kr/books?id=ZE0 ... e.&f=false

The degree of convexity of the earth is, as nearly as can be stated in figures, 7 inches and 9/10ths of an inch, or nearly 8 inches in a mile.

- Chambers information for the people

[Left Seater]

No more fl@t earth discussion from me until one of the globe worshippers answers the following basic question.

What is the rate of curvature per mile on your globe.

ty - hugs and kisses

Oh getting a bit high and mighty here are ya? One standard for the rest of us but you don’t hold yourself to the same standard.

[Jay in Phoenix]

Eject, Jay.

Not a chance nimrod. It's too much fun watching you spin and spin.

Your denial and idiocy are absolutely hysterical.

Please, continue your foolish quest Dumb Quixote.

[Softball Bat]

Oh getting a bit high and mighty here are ya? One standard for the rest of us but you don’t hold yourself to the same standard.

It is a basic question.

If asked the question, you ought to immediately reply, "Oh yes, the earth curvature rate is ____________."

The end.


So, help your team mate Dinsdale out and verify that this is accurate...

http://www.davidsenesac.com/Information ... sight.html

The Earth has a radius of approximately 3965 miles. Using the Pythagorean theorem, that calculates to an average curvature of 7.98 inches per mile or approximately 8 inches per mile (squared).

- David Senesac



http://mathcentral.uregina.ca/qq/databa ... dyck2.html

Hence the earth's surface curves approximately 8 inches in one mile. Look at our response to Shirley to see what happens after the first mile.

- Math Central



https://books.google.co.kr/books?id=l5I ... e.&f=false

The true level being a curve line which falls below the straight line of apparent level about 8 inches in one mile; 32 inches in two miles, etc., the curvature always augmenting in proportion to the square of the distance.

- The Complete Mathematical and General Navigation Tables



https://books.google.co.kr/books?id=ZE0 ... e.&f=false

The degree of convexity of the earth is, as nearly as can be stated in figures, 7 inches and 9/10ths of an inch, or nearly 8 inches in a mile.

- Chambers information for the people

It is accurate, right?

If they are all wrong, what are the true numbers?

[Softball Bat]

Your denial and idiocy are absolutely hysterical.

What denial?


Jay, if you had any dignity as a human being you would have EJECTED in shame when Moving Sale outed you as BLATANTLY LYING about the dumb and foolish pic you posted.

Instead, you have continued to *pop* back in like a jack-in-the-box and rant at me.
And each time you have done so you have posted something WRONG that has gotten your head kicked in again.

And yet you keep coming in to tell me that I am an idiot.

lol




Yeah, but flat earth is... dum.

- Jay






EJECT, Jay!

[Left Seater]

It is a basic question.

I agree. Show us a model where the moon can be visible at your house but not mine at the same time.

[Softball Bat]

The Earth has a radius of approximately 3965 miles. Using the Pythagorean theorem, that calculates to an average curvature of 7.98 inches per mile or approximately 8 inches per mile (squared).

- David Senac



You agree with that?




It is a good thing you are a pilot and not a lawyer.

I am not here to PROVE any model.
I (or any model of mine) am not on trial.

YOUR GLOBE, which you doggedly insist is FACT, is on trial.

[Softball Bat]

This is obviously not proof of any earth shape, but it is interesting.

http://archive.jsonline.com/news/wiscon ... 50821.html

Story about the Great Lakes, and how they are essentially one river that travels a distance of 2212 miles and dumps into the Atlantic Ocean.

Click the link to see the full graphic and to read the story.






Flat water.
Dam.

Flat water.
Fall.

Flat water.
Dam.

etc...

Dumping into the Atlantic at 0 ft sea LEVEL.


Why doesn't the graphic show the water curving?
It shows the water continuously level.

How silly of them.
lol


A lot of earth curvature must occur over the span of 2212 miles on that gosh dern globe.

Funny...
That massive earth curvature is not represented at all on the U.S. Army Corp of Engineers: National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration model.




Fire someone!

[Left Seater]

Far easier to draw a picture in 2-D without curvature for an article than it is to depict it with the curvature.

Your turn, how can the moon not be visible at my house when it is at yours at the same time? You claim you aren’t trolling and really want to know, so if this was true why aren’t you experimenting with different shapes to see which ones recreate what we observe on earth?

[Goober McTuber]

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Fired/resigned: 54, Indicted: 17, Convicted: 5

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[Jay in Phoenix]

Jay, if you had any dignity as a human being you would have EJECTED in shame when Moving Sale outed you as BLATANTLY LYING about the dumb and foolish pic you posted.

Instead, you have continued to *pop* back in like a jack-in-the-box and rant at me.
And each time you have done so you have posted something WRONG that has gotten your head kicked in again.

And yet you keep coming in to tell me that I am an idiot.

Well, that would be because you are an idiot.

Sale was wrong. As are you. That picture was not from any video. It's easily proven, but toying with you two is just so much more fun.

You have proven nothing. Your horrible youtube videos are a joke. Going to a Wiki page for proof may be worse. You do know that anybody can edit or alter a Wiki page, right?

Keep spinning little top.

[BSmack]

Jay, if you had any dignity as a human being you would have EJECTED in shame when Moving Sale outed you as BLATANTLY LYING about the dumb and foolish pic you posted.

A logical fallacy with shall henceforth be known as the Appeal to the Midget.

[Jay in Phoenix]

A logical fallacy with shall henceforth be known as the Appeal to the Midget.

[Softball Bat]

Jay the lying blowhard, Left Seater, Dinsdale, 88, Bsmack, others...

The Earth has a radius of approximately 3965 miles. Using the Pythagorean theorem, that calculates to an average curvature of 7.98 inches per mile or approximately 8 inches per mile (squared).

- David Senac



You agree with that?

It's your globe.

Tell me if this is accurate.

[Softball Bat]

Far easier to draw a picture in 2-D without curvature for an article than it is to depict it with the curvature.

Give me a break.

There is no earth curvature.
If they made this graphic according to the ridiculous globe, some people would look at Lake Superior curving over 379 miles -- water curving up, but then somehow falling down at the dam, and be like, "wtf?"

The whole thing would look ridiculous as hell, which is what the globe is.


Look at that graphic and imagine it with the earth curvature.

It looks very stupid, doesn't it?

lol

[Jay in Phoenix]

[Softball Bat]

I pity the people who follow after this demented jackass.

[Left Seater]

Still waiting for your explanation of how the moon is visible over your house but not mine at the same time.

[Softball Bat]

Still waiting for your explanation of how the moon is visible over your house but not mine at the same time.

Oh my goodness...

1. This thread is not to prove any other model of the earth other than the globe. Not my model or any other model. I have no model to prove. I only have a general assumption about certain elements about what I consider that the earth might be.

2. YOU on the other hand dogmatically insist that your model of the earth is TRUE FACT.

3. You, 88, Jay, Dinsdale, shutyomouth, B, others...

The Earth has a radius of approximately 3965 miles. Using the Pythagorean theorem, that calculates to an average curvature of 7.98 inches per mile or approximately 8 inches per mile (squared).

For your globe, which you tell me is FACT, is this accurate?

If it isn't, tell me what the real numbers are.