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Papa Willie wrote:...he was acting like a dumbass and not catering to the music - but rather - making himself look silly.

If you get up on stage with Prince...and this comes as a surprise to you, you definitely need a check up from the neck up.

Jay in Phoenix wrote:

No, this is a nice Dodge.

Use your words, tiny lawyer.

I saw a Hennessey hellcat the other day on the 101. Thing was loud as fuck.

Papa Willie wrote:If you take a shit on a Beatles' song like this, you're being a turd.

No argument there.

Pretty wack take considering the song.

On a related note...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Cp9V3D3ufn4[/youtube]
Recorded the week SPLHCB was released.

As much as I admire Prince's talent as a musician, I have to agree with spray on this one. He looks like a tool up there.

Want to see someone absolutely crush this tune?



Yeah, I have put it up here before, but it was 10 years or more ago.

Just another nog that doesn't know his place eh?
It's a tribute to GH and his son's face says you all are idiots.

Or maybe you will believe Tom Petty:

Tom Petty and Others Tell the Story Behind Prince’s “While My Guitar Gently Weeps” Solo
By Christopher Scapelliti
April 21, 2017

“You see me nodding at him, to say, ‘Go on, go on,’” Petty says. “I remember I leaned out at him at one point and gave him a ‘This is going great!’ kind of look.

“He just burned it up. You could feel the electricity of ‘something really big’s going down here,'"

........

So while his face shows that he is clearly miffed, he isn't stupid enough to try and pull the "it wasn't so great" card.

Papa Willie wrote:And for the record, I'm not sure how classic this clip really is. Petty & Co. are looking at Prince pretty much like "dude - chill the fuck out". A classic case of overplaying.

Papa Willie wrote: Seriously - watch the faces of the other guys when Prince is doing this. You'll note: slightly nervous smiles with the thoughts of "JFC, dude - chill out and fit the groove better".

Is it any surprise that Papa Willie aka (Porky) has no idea what he's talking about? I've read some of his posts and he clearly seems clueless about almost everything.

The song was rehearsed and Prince was asked to play the lead solo and cut the hell loose!





The Day Prince’s Guitar Wept the Loudest

CRAIG INCIARDI (Curator at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Museum) I’ve seen every induction performance from ’92 to the present, so that’s like 24 shows. On a purely musical level, a technical level as far as musicianship, that performance seems like the most impressive one.

GALLEN It became one of the most satisfying musical moments in my history of watching and producing live music.

PETTY You see me nodding at him, to say, “Go on, go on.” I remember I leaned out at him at one point and gave him a “This is going great!” kind of look. He just burned it up. You could feel the electricity of “something really big’s going down here.”

FERRONE Tom sort of went over to him and said, “Just cut loose and don’t feel sort of inhibited to copy anything that we have, just play your thing, just have a good time.” It was a hell of a guitar solo, and a hell of a show he actually put on for the band.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/28/arts ... -fame.html






And there you have it, from the Band and producers mouth.

Does this Porky guy just sit around at home and post on message boards all day? It wouldn't surprise me, since he doesn't seem like the most aware or brightest bulb on the block.


EDIT :opps, looks like someone else got to it before me. Should have posted it a few hours ago while I had it lined up, but went out to run some errands. Different articles though.

There are 2 of Pettys band on there with them..Steve Ferrone on the drum kit and Scott Thurston on electric guitar. Guess they thought they were good enough for the show.

As far as them not knowing Prince was not headed to some kind of impressive break there, they had to have some kind of idea he was going to do that. I don't think it was disrespecting GH at all. Pretty fucking impressive really.

Wow, just wow. This Porky guy is freaking delusional.

Ok, can someone tell me what this nut-job is babbling about?

Doubtful. I think he's a huffer.

Papa Willie wrote:

Goober McTuber wrote:Doubtful. I think he's a huffer.

Jesus, Goobs. You're now aiming for a reacharound from Melton now?

I don't take sides or look for support. You do because you're weak. And high on glue.

Papa Willie wrote:Bullshit. You're just looking for somebody's shit to appear on your dick.

Extremely high on glue.

Goober McTuber wrote:Doubtful. I think he's a huffer.

So Porky is a huffer, as well as a fat pig? It's starting to make sense now. By the way, can someone link me to a thread where he isn't getting his ass-kicked like he did in this thread and a few of the others I've read that he posted in?

Papa Willie wrote:Being the chicken shit you are, you just smile and say "that's okay", but you're really not too happy with it in reality.

Petty was classy enough to know that saying what he really felt wouldn't go down very good. Understand?

Tarkus, I wish I could see the video, because you're on the edge of insightful, here. It really can be a big difference between what one's mouth explains versus what's one's body language betrays.

Unfortunately, you're also being two-faced. If it's chicken-shit of m2, it is not classy of Petty. If anything, it's worse because Petty moves from saying it's ok to saying he encouraged the dump-taking.

Went back and watched Petty during Prince's shred fest. The look I see during one of his rips looks more like a "damn that little niggger can shred" look rather than a "dude, you're over playing it" look.

I do still agree with spray's thought that the song is called WMG gently weeps, not WMG shreds like a motherfukker. And clapton did capture this sentiment perfectly.

But spray, you still wish you had his chops.

Motherfukker was one of the best rock guitarists in history.

Papa Willie wrote: Not even trying to brag - but I could have made myself look equally as silly in that scenario if I wanted to. Prince wasn't bad as a guitarist, but he wasn't even a pimple on the ass of somebody like Jeff Beck, Steve Morse, and a shit-heap more. Sometimes when you over-do in a situation like that, it makes you look better than you are.

Meow!

smackaholic wrote:Went back and watched Petty during Prince's shred fest. The look I see during one of his rips looks more like a "damn that little niggger can shred" look rather than a "dude, you're over playing it" look.

That is what I got too, and I have watched that video probably 50 times.

I do still agree with spray's thought that the song is called WMG gently weeps, not WMG shreds like a motherfukker. And clapton did capture this sentiment perfectly.

it is called innovation and variants on a lot of songs are pretty common.

Motherfukker was one of the best rock guitarists in history.

Agreed. One of the best. I disagree with Sprays take that he was not of the talent that Jeff Beck has. Beck has a different style and can shred in his own style. I watched Joe Walsh do some crazy shit last Saturday in Seattle, but he don't even come close to Prince's chops.

Imagine there was a fun charity basketball game back in the day -- and some NBA players were part of it.

All of a sudden in the middle of the game, Michael Jordan decides he's going to -----> GET OFF.

MJ starts performing windmill dunks over celebrity participants.
Launching himself from the free throw line for flying dunks.
Crossover dribble, spinning, finger-roll layups.
Etc.

Other NBA players there would be like, "Damn, that's some crazy bad ass shit."

They respect it, but know inside that it isn't exactly the forum for it.



That's Prince's performance.

Softball Bat wrote:Other NBA players there would be like, "Damn, that's some crazy bad ass shit."

They respect it, but know inside that it isn't exactly the forum for it.



That's Prince's performance.

Tom Petty and the band ASKED/ Prince to go off and get crazy and end the show with a solo and make it his own interpretation. He was SCRIPTED by the band to end the show with a solo. You can also see George Harrison's son ABSOLUTELY loving the performance by Prince, by the look on his face.

This is all well documented by the LINK I provided early in the thread. The FACT that this is even being debated, is solely attributed to the FACT that most in this thread can't read.

m2 wrote:Tom Petty and the band ASKED/ Prince to go off and get crazy and end the show with a solo and make it his own interpretation. He was SCRIPTED by the band to end the show with a solo. You can also see George Harrison's son ABSOLUTELY loving the performance by Prince, by the look on his face.

This is all well documented by the LINK I provided early in the thread. The FACT that this is even being debated, is solely attributed to the FACT that most in this thread can't read.

Twinkle toes, I don't doubt that Prince was asked to end with a "cut loose" solo.
I don't doubt that TP said he loved it.
I see George's kid smiling and nodding.

Prince's solo did not match the song. He took it too far.
He did not match the sentiment of the evening.
He flipped the guitar and walked away.
lol

No acknowledgment of the other (great) band members.
No, Prince took a time to celebrate George Harrison and made it a grand "ME" moment of the highest order.

People can have their own opinion on what went on there.
It's the nature of musical performance.
It's all good.

I view and provide my own take.




Anyway...

We saw Prince's performance many years earlier.

smackaholic wrote:Went back and watched Petty during Prince's shred fest. The look I see during one of his rips looks more like a "damn that little niggger can shred" look rather than a "dude, you're over playing it" look.

Wait, what? :? That's not better. The word choice turns Prince from a respected colleague to an exotic token.

Papa Willie wrote:
Not even trying to brag - but I could have made myself look equally as silly in that scenario if I wanted to. Prince wasn't bad as a guitarist, but he wasn't even a pimple on the ass of somebody like Jeff Beck, Steve Morse, and a shit-heap more. Sometimes when you over-do in a situation like that, it makes you look better than you are.

You are bragging. You go from the humblebrag of 'silly' to the envybrag of 'look better than...'

So you're upset that Prince showed up your favorite guitarists, the guitarists you see yourself as wanting to be most like -- but you can't say he sucks. So you say it was inappropriate for him to be better than guitarists you feel a deeper kinship with.

You still have a general point about body language. Your phrasing here is your body language.

Papa Willie wrote:If they would have done this in a studio, there is not a producer alive that wouldn't have said "errrrr - okay - errrrrr - you're going to have to tone that down a little bit."

That's probably why Prince never had a producer. He produced and wrote and in some cases played all the instruments on his albums.

Papa Willie wrote:Prince doing his best Marty McFly.

If Prince played triangle...

haha!

Game over.


He's right up there with Jimi Hendrix and Brian May

I think part of what annoys people is the look of arrogance captured perfectly in the pic m2 just posted. It's that tough guy scowl you usually see from boxers at a weigh in hen they are trying to stare down their opponent. He had that same scowl in the video with TP. The tossing of the guitar is the icing on the cake.

Is it intentional? Is he trying to just let everybody know how badass he is?

Who knows?

Seems more a cultural thing. Balck folks and braggadocio just seem to go hand in hand. Although, I think it is bleeding over more and more into other cultures.

Fortunately, there were some pretty fair balck guitarists that didn't suffer from it. The best example I can give is Albert King. Albert is up there having the time of his life. I love his laughing out loud between rips. Dude realizes that he is getting paid to do what he loves and it shows. He KNOWS he's the man, but he doesn't have to remind the audience. And yeah, Prince can squeeze more notes into a bar, but he can't come close to Albert's feel.

smackaholic wrote:I think part of what annoys people is the look of arrogance captured perfectly in the pic m2 just posted. It's that tough guy scowl you usually see from boxers at a weigh in hen they are trying to stare down their opponent. He had that same scowl in the video with TP. The tossing of the guitar is the icing on the cake.

Is it intentional? Is he trying to just let everybody know how badass he is?

Who knows?

Seems more a cultural thing. Balck folks and braggadocio just seem to go hand in hand. Although, I think it is bleeding over more and more into other cultures.

Fortunately, there were some pretty fair balck guitarists that didn't suffer from it. The best example I can give is Albert King. Albert is up there having the time of his life. I love his laughing out loud between rips. Dude realizes that he is getting paid to do what he loves and it shows. He KNOWS he's the man, but he doesn't have to remind the audience. And yeah, Prince can squeeze more notes into a bar, but he can't come close to Albert's feel.

You are one whiny fuck.

If it wasn't for whining, this board wouldn't get 3 posts a week.

Now stop whining about my whining and go check the dryer before someone throws your shit on the floor.

smackaholic wrote:

ftfy

Wasn't he the goodfellas character always bitching about the moolians?

smackaholic wrote:Wasn't he the goodfellas character always bitching about the moolians?

Go home and get your fucking shine box.

The joke stopped being funny once you had to explain it to suckaholic, which isn't too surprising considering he needs to be explained a lot of things, particularly that it's a monumentally stupid idea to allow people to shoot up a high rise building from 400 yards away.

Papa Willie wrote: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=48564

'Nuff said.

What the fuck do you know, except sucking and being fat, considering you are...how should I say...bringing up the rear in BTPCFB pick 'em.