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Your limp assertion has been wiped up like a coffee spill on a truck stop diner's counter. The result of the ghastly U.S. sponsored war was about a million dead Iranians. That and the eternal hatred of the region. Except for our Saudi friends, and of course the Zionazis. As far as our strategic goals...what, constant increasing war and terrorism? Well, I suppose that's fine if you're in the munitions business. As far as funding the Contras, this is typical demented bile dripping out of your sotted melon. And of course disgusting.
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Truman wrote: So tank armies rolling across your borders isn't an invasion? Hmmm. I'll bet the Czechs would disagree.

I think you mean to say "attacked".

I'll help you out with that one 'cause we're buds.
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Let's look at the curious slime creature known as Dov Zakheim

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Martyred wrote:
Truman wrote: So tank armies rolling across your borders isn't an invasion? Hmmm. I'll bet the Czechs would disagree.

I think you mean to say "attacked".

I'll help you out with that one 'cause we're buds.
'Preciate you having my back, tovarisch... But I meant invasion:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Arab- ... _June_1948

There are 10 matches for the word "invasion", 10 for the word "invade" and 5 listings for the word "invaded". Without reading the complete listing, I'm pretty sure a UN-recognized Israeli border was hostilely compromised somewhere...
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Trupid, get it straight. The Muslim nations didn't invade "Israel." Rather, the Zionists invaded the Middle East by establishing their disgusting apartheid state despite universal rejection from the entire region. The local nations' reaction was just that of a body seeking to expel a virus. As you can see, the virus--like AIDS--has proven very resilient and has resulted in tremendous instability and violence in the region ever since. No Zionists means no Islamic Fundamentalists. Or what?
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For what it's worth, I always thought you and I would make a hell of a morning team:

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Truman wrote: 'Preciate you having my back, tovarisch... But I meant invasion:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Arab- ... _June_1948

There are 10 matches for the word "invasion", 10 for the word "invade" and 5 listings for the word "invaded". Without reading the complete listing, I'm pretty sure a UN-recognized Israeli border was hostilely compromised somewhere...

Arabs were already living there when the Jews showed up. Even Israeli schoolchildren aren't taught differently.
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Every Israeli school kid, as well as every adult in that bunkered land of dry Promise, should carefully read The Thirteenth Tribe by Arthur Koestler (a proud supporter of the Zionist state, btw) and start coming to grips with exactly what Koestler predicted would occur. Of course he was right, and no one has offered any serious criticism of his method or findings. Apparently it's been considered most effective by the Likudites and so forth to simply ignore it. And this has occurred. But the fact remains, the Ashkanazi are not Semitic or descended from the Middle East in the first place.
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Martyred wrote:
Truman wrote: 'Preciate you having my back, tovarisch... But I meant invasion:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Arab- ... _June_1948

There are 10 matches for the word "invasion", 10 for the word "invade" and 5 listings for the word "invaded". Without reading the complete listing, I'm pretty sure a UN-recognized Israeli border was hostilely compromised somewhere...

Arabs were already living there when the Jews showed up. Even Israeli schoolchildren aren't taught differently.
Egyptian tanks weren't. Hmmm... Marty or Wiki...
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Truman wrote: Egyptian tanks weren't. Hmmm... Marty or Wiki...
The Egyptians didn't roll in under the banner of Islam.

Palestine could have been settled by Moonies. The result would have been the same.
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LTS TRN 2 wrote:...The Thirteenth Tribe by Arthur Koestler...

Shlomo Sand's The Invention of the Jewish People is a much more academic exercise.

I would consider Koestler's work a "primer", but worthy none the less.
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Martyred wrote:
Truman wrote: Egyptian tanks weren't. Hmmm... Marty or Wiki...
The Egyptians didn't roll in under the banner of Islam.
So the Egyptians, Jordanians, Syrians, and Lebanese ALL converted to the Religion of Peace after the '48 invasion? They weren't exactly flyin' the ol' green, white, and, er... green when they slammed jets into the Trade Center, either. And what IS with your obsession with banners these days anyway? First the 'mericans and now Islam...

Go back and re-read L-Tard's question. Yes, the INVASION was lead by nation-states, but I can promise you their soldiers were Muslim.
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Truman wrote:
Martyred wrote:
Truman wrote: Egyptian tanks weren't. Hmmm... Marty or Wiki...
The Egyptians didn't roll in under the banner of Islam.
So the Egyptians, Jordanians, Syrians, and Lebanese ALL converted to the Religion of Peace after the '48 invasion? They weren't exactly flyin' the ol' green, white, and, er... green when they slammed jets into the Trade Center, either. And what IS with your obsession with banners these days anyway? First the 'mericans and now Islam...

Go back and re-read L-Tard's question. Yes, the INVASION was lead by nation-states, but I can promise you their soldiers were Muslim.

You're smarter than this.
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LTS TRN 2 wrote:Trupid, get it straight. The Muslim nations didn't invade "Israel." Rather, the Zionists invaded the Middle East by establishing their disgusting apartheid state despite universal rejection from the entire region.

Funny... Most history books suggest that it was the United Nations that established Israel. So the UN is run by Zionists? Who knew?
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Truman wrote:
LTS TRN 2 wrote:Trupid, get it straight. The Muslim nations didn't invade "Israel." Rather, the Zionists invaded the Middle East by establishing their disgusting apartheid state despite universal rejection from the entire region.

Funny... Most history books suggest that it was the United Nations that established Israel. So the UN is run by Zionists? Who knew?

Technically, it was a de facto creation of Balfour (The Brits).

The British were of course rewarded with the unending gratitude of the Jews they sought to help.
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Martyred wrote:
The British were of course rewarded with the unending gratitude of the Jews they sought to help.

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Martyred wrote:

Technically, it was a de facto creation of Balfour (The Brits).

The British were of course rewarded with the unending gratitude of the Jews they sought to help.
But Officially, they were chartered by the UN. And to your point, the Israeli's haven't exactly been all that ecstatic with us either since their founding...
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Truman wrote:...the Israeli's haven't exactly been all that ecstatic with us either since their founding...

I'm sure mvscal is kept up late at night, pacing back and forth with that weighing heavily on his mind.
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...and BTW, I've yet to receive any feedback from you on my "morning zoo drive-time show" proposal...
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Truman wrote:
Martyred wrote:

Technically, it was a de facto creation of Balfour (The Brits).

The British were of course rewarded with the unending gratitude of the Jews they sought to help.
But Officially, they were chartered by the UN. And to your point, the Israeli's haven't exactly been all that ecstatic with us either since their founding...
Except that they wouldn't be in existence today without the three to four billion $$ of direct aid we send them every year in one form or another.

Also, if you learn the correct use of the apostrophe you'll come off looking much more intelligent.
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Except that they wouldn't be in existence today without the three to four billion $$ of direct aid we send them every year in one form or another.

Sure they would. They'd just get their money from somewhere else.

I know it's hard for Americans to believe, but you weren't Israel's first (or even second) "foster parent".
I'd even say that before 1967, relations between the two countries were rather tepid.
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Mikey wrote:
Truman wrote:
Martyred wrote:

Technically, it was a de facto creation of Balfour (The Brits).

The British were of course rewarded with the unending gratitude of the Jews they sought to help.
But Officially, they were chartered by the UN. And to your point, the Israeli's haven't exactly been all that ecstatic with us either since their founding...
Except that they wouldn't be in existence today without the three to four billion $$ of direct aid we send them every year in one form or another.

Also, if you learn the correct use of the apostrophe you'll come off looking much more intelligent.
Naw, it would probably take a bit more than spotless punctuation for that to ever occur. Sorry I didn't proof reed my last post up to your specs. You feeling overly surly today, Mikey, or just in the mood to pick nits?
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Martyred wrote:
Mikey wrote:
Except that they wouldn't be in existence today without the three to four billion $$ of direct aid we send them every year in one form or another.

Sure they would. They'd just get their money from somewhere else.

I know it's hard for Americans to believe, but you weren't Israel's first (or even second) "foster parent".
I'd even say that before 1967, relations between the two countries were rather tepid.
I believe it had a little something to do with our refusal to sell give the Israelis the ordnance they wanted to make war on their neighbors. Several interesting books out there on how the IDF scratched together their weaponry to defend themselves...
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Martyred wrote:...and BTW, I've yet to receive any feedback from you on my "morning zoo drive-time show" proposal...
Can I broadcast by remote or do I have to move to Cannuckistan? Also, how much are your pesos worth these days? And we gotta have a name... The Hoser and the Poseur? I'll let you sort out who is which. And can we play a whole bunch of Rush for our bump music? Lemme know when we can start - I'll bring in a dozen of Tim Horton's maple-glazed...
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Truman wrote:
Martyred wrote:...and BTW, I've yet to receive any feedback from you on my "morning zoo drive-time show" proposal...
Can I broadcast by remote or do I have to move to Cannuckistan? Also, how much are your pesos worth these days? And we gotta have a name... The Hoser and the Poseur? I'll let you sort out who is which. And can we play a whole bunch of Rush for our bump music? Lemme know when we can start - I'll bring in a dozen of Tim Horton's maple-glazed...

Either "live-via-Skype" or we set up an ISDN line.

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Er, well, yeah... You OK with paying union scale? Smackie's gonna want health care and stuff...
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Truman wrote: Smackie's gonna want health care and stuff...

Trust me. I got Smackie covered...

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What's that lumpy stuff?

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Truman wrote:
LTS TRN 2 wrote:Trupid, get it straight. The Muslim nations didn't invade "Israel." Rather, the Zionists invaded the Middle East by establishing their disgusting apartheid state despite universal rejection from the entire region.

Funny... Most history books suggest that it was the United Nations that established Israel. So the UN is run by Zionists? Who knew?
The U.N. was about fifteen minutes old at the time of the gerrymandered back-room arm twisting that got the new apartheid state authorized. Every single nation in the region rejected the idea vehemently. As for the Zionazis running the U.N., no, they just keep control over the U.S. and British veto votes. That's all they've needed for their desperate 65-run of lies, theft, and murder.
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LTS TRN 2 wrote:
Truman wrote:
LTS TRN 2 wrote:Trupid, get it straight. The Muslim nations didn't invade "Israel." Rather, the Zionists invaded the Middle East by establishing their disgusting apartheid state despite universal rejection from the entire region.

Funny... Most history books suggest that it was the United Nations that established Israel. So the UN is run by Zionists? Who knew?
The U.N. was about fifteen minutes old at the time of the gerrymandered back-room arm twisting that got the new apartheid state authorized.

Wrong.
Every single nation in the region rejected the idea vehemently.

Who gives a rat's ass? Every single nation vehemently opposed was an authoritarian regime bent on eradicating the Jews from the face of the earth. Both sides had historical claim to the region, and the UN partitition plan was reasonable - but that wasn't good enough for the Arab League. Had the Arab League accepted Resolution 181, you'd have your Palestinian state today. Instead, all you have to show for your continued rejection of the Jewish state is a perennial ass-kicking.
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Harry Truman was the stupidest and least qualified president until Reagan and Dubya, and chief among his defects was a simplistic allegiance to the Christer cult. He signed off on the nascent apartheid state in about five seconds. But at issue is the basic historical claim of the Ashkanazi Jews on the region of Palestine. As Koestler detailed, the Ashkanazi were not descended from the ancient Hebrews--or the Sephardic Jews who had moved to Spain, etc. No, they were originally the Khazar tribe--just north of Turkey, a large group with a rich history--who converted in the ninth century on the order of their king. They are not Semitic--unlike the Arabs, who are 100% Semitic. That's why they don't look anything like Semites, or what? They have no historical claim on the region, and their 65-year record of lies, theft, and murder speaks volumes as to the disaster of granting the race-state experiment official legitimacy in 1948.
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LTS TRN 2 wrote:Harry Truman was the stupidest and least qualified president until Reagan and Dubya, and chief among his defects was a simplistic allegiance to the Christer cult. He signed off on the nascent apartheid state in about five seconds. But at issue is the basic historical claim of the Ashkanazi Jews on the region of Palestine. As Koestler detailed, the Ashkanazi were not descended from the ancient Hebrews--or the Sephardic Jews who had moved to Spain, etc. No, they were originally the Khazar tribe--just north of Turkey, a large group with a rich history--who converted in the ninth century on the order of their king. They are not Semitic--unlike the Arabs, who are 100% Semitic. That's why they don't look anything like Semites, or what? They have no historical claim on the region, and their 65-year record of lies, theft, and murder speaks volumes as to the disaster of granting the race-state experiment official legitimacy in 1948.
No one has a historic claim on anything. A nation possesses its land because they are the latest group to whup whomever possessed it previously. End of story. Unless you can show that you are from the first injun tribe to settle your land, you have no "historic claim" either.

So, given this inconvenient truth, all we can go by today is what do we need to do to try to see that we are not runned by a different group. I'm no international relations authority, but, my guess is that sucking Arab cahk is not the best way to do this.
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That's right, the usual political concerns of offending a voting bloc. It's irrelevant in light of the result--which has been a nightmare of terror, duplicity, and political confusion which is only getting worse and worse as the vile behavior of the race-state becomes more obvious and less acceptable--even by America's own lax standards coddling demented "allies."
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LTS TRN 2 wrote:Harry Truman was the stupidest and least qualified president until Reagan and Dubya, and chief among his defects was a simplistic allegiance to the Christer cult. He signed off on the nascent apartheid state in about five seconds. But at issue is the basic historical claim of the Ashkanazi Jews on the region of Palestine. As Koestler detailed, the Ashkanazi were not descended from the ancient Hebrews--or the Sephardic Jews who had moved to Spain, etc. No, they were originally the Khazar tribe--just north of Turkey, a large group with a rich history--who converted in the ninth century on the order of their king. They are not Semitic--unlike the Arabs, who are 100% Semitic. That's why they don't look anything like Semites, or what? They have no historical claim on the region, and their 65-year record of lies, theft, and murder speaks volumes as to the disaster of granting the race-state experiment official legitimacy in 1948.
No one has a historic claim on anything. A nation possesses its land because they are the latest group to whup whomever possessed it previously. End of story. Unless you can show that you are from the first injun tribe to settle your land, you have no "historic claim" either.

So, given this inconvenient truth, all we can go by today is what do we need to do to try to see that we are not runned by a different group. I'm no international relations authority, but, my guess is that sucking Arab cahk is not the best way to do this.
What? Oh, you're going with 1-malt's Might Makes Right simplistic gibberish? Really? And so..our attempt to conquer Vietnam was perfectly okay, we just didn't pull it off? Same with France--in Vietnam and Algeria? Really? Anyone who stomps in and holds everyone at gunpoint is somehow in possession, end of story? Well, most rational people certainly didn't feel that way about Germany stomping into Poland and France. But somehow it's okay for a group of European Jews to stomp into Palestine five thousand miles away and on the basis of a bogus historical claim set up a bunker state based on a racist agenda? Sure, smackie, I see ya workin' :wink:
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smackaholic wrote:
No one has a historic claim on anything. A nation possesses its land because they are the latest group to whup whomever possessed it previously. End of story.

Except when America backs the Al Queda funded KLA in the Balkans. Or Chechnyan douchebags because Russia is all in your dome.

End of story.
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Martyred wrote:
smackaholic wrote:
No one has a historic claim on anything. A nation possesses its land because they are the latest group to whup whomever possessed it previously. End of story.

Except when America backs the Al Queda funded KLA in the Balkans. Or Chechnyan douchebags because Russia is all in your dome.

End of story.


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LTS TRN 2 wrote:What? Oh, you're going with 1-malt's Might Makes Right simplistic gibberish?
How the fuck do you think the Arabs took over that region? They certainly weren't native.
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smackaholic wrote:
LTS TRN 2 wrote:Harry Truman was the stupidest and least qualified president until Reagan and Dubya, and chief among his defects was a simplistic allegiance to the Christer cult. He signed off on the nascent apartheid state in about five seconds. But at issue is the basic historical claim of the Ashkanazi Jews on the region of Palestine. As Koestler detailed, the Ashkanazi were not descended from the ancient Hebrews--or the Sephardic Jews who had moved to Spain, etc. No, they were originally the Khazar tribe--just north of Turkey, a large group with a rich history--who converted in the ninth century on the order of their king. They are not Semitic--unlike the Arabs, who are 100% Semitic. That's why they don't look anything like Semites, or what? They have no historical claim on the region, and their 65-year record of lies, theft, and murder speaks volumes as to the disaster of granting the race-state experiment official legitimacy in 1948.
No one has a historic claim on anything. A nation possesses its land because they are the latest group to whup whomever possessed it previously. End of story. Unless you can show that you are from the first injun tribe to settle your land, you have no "historic claim" either.

So, given this inconvenient truth, all we can go by today is what do we need to do to try to see that we are not runned by a different group. I'm no international relations authority, but, my guess is that sucking Arab cahk is not the best way to do this.
What? Oh, you're going with 1-malt's Might Makes Right simplistic gibberish? Really? And so..our attempt to conquer Vietnam was perfectly okay, we just didn't pull it off? Same with France--in Vietnam and Algeria? Really? Anyone who stomps in and holds everyone at gunpoint is somehow in possession, end of story? Well, most rational people certainly didn't feel that way about Germany stomping into Poland and France. But somehow it's okay for a group of European Jews to stomp into Palestine five thousand miles away and on the basis of a bogus historical claim set up a bunker state based on a racist agenda? Sure, smackie, I see ya workin' :wink:
A question for you.

If might doesn't make right, what does when it comes to geo-political squabbles. We have come to the aid of our allies in the past because it was in OUR interests. Yeah, we wave the flag and say it was done to save democracy, but, in the end that is a bunch of crap. The problem today is that we do things that are not in our interests such as back muzzie whack jobs. What we really need to do is get together with the russkie and the chinks and sit angry muzzie dude down and explain to him that we will kill every last fukking one of them if they don't settle down.
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Martyred wrote:
88 wrote:Where should the Jews be relocated to?

Manhattan, brooklyn and vero beach for the old ones.
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