Cleveland is going to suck a little bit more very soon

[Smackie Chan]

Would anyone here actually hire a person who is willing to live in Cleveland?

Talk about your red flags.

[smackaholic]

We have a smattering of yuppies in the city, but, it is a very small smattering. I think the biggest difference between CT and upstate NY is that we do have a substantial middle class/rich population, whereas you guys are pretty much missing the middle class/rich 'burbs.

You've obviously never been to Orchard Park, Pittsford, Mendon (former home of tax evader Tom Golisano), or a bunch of other rich upstate suburbs. The difference between Bridgeport and Rochester is that Rochester also has a few neighborhoods that rival the rich suburbs in quality of life and property prices.

Oh, and after looking at some property listings for Bridgeport, I can't believe how much people are asking for crappy houses that would go for 1/2 their Bridgeport asking prices in Monroe County.

Of course you have a few rich suburbs. My point is the entire state of CT is pretty much a rich suburb of a few really shitty cities.

I don't know a damn thing about brigdeport other than it is an even worse hole than hartford, but, I would guess that it, like hartford and new haven has a small corner somewhere with an upscale neighborhood.

What sucks is that these cities no longer have substantial middle class neighborhoods. I assume the same can be said for crapchester. All the middle class are out in the 'burbs or moved away, mostly to the south.

If CT continues on it's path of oppressive taxation and the pols don't grow a sack in their dealings with the gubmint employee unions, CT will look like upstate NY in another 10 years or so. Our gubmint employees have pretty much been using the UAW playbook and it will lead to the same end. Businesses won't just keep rolling over and paying. They will eventually move to SC or alabama or where ever.

[BSmack]

Of course you have a few rich suburbs. My point is the entire state of CT is pretty much a rich suburb of a few really shitty cities.

I don't know a damn thing about brigdeport other than it is an even worse hole than hartford, but, I would guess that it, like hartford and new haven has a small corner somewhere with an upscale neighborhood.

What sucks is that these cities no longer have substantial middle class neighborhoods. I assume the same can be said for crapchester. All the middle class are out in the 'burbs or moved away, mostly to the south.

If CT continues on it's path of oppressive taxation and the pols don't grow a sack in their dealings with the gubmint employee unions, CT will look like upstate NY in another 10 years or so. Our gubmint employees have pretty much been using the UAW playbook and it will lead to the same end. Businesses won't just keep rolling over and paying. They will eventually move to SC or alabama or where ever.

Rochester actually has a few areas that are predominantly middle class. What we call the South Wedge and the 19th Ward are two examples that immediately come to mind. Oh and the area south of Cobbs Hill and the Winton/Browncroft area also have strong middle class populations. And lest we forget the Park Avenue neighborhood. Oh I'll give you that Rochester is home to some shitty ass neighborhoods. But there are plenty of places in Rochester where I would take my wife to dine or attend a festival/concert.

Oh, and even in the worst areas, there are still middle class folk. I work with a few who, despite having a good job, would rather take their chances than move. Home is home, no matter how bad everyone else might think it is.

[smackaholic]

Of course you have a few rich suburbs. My point is the entire state of CT is pretty much a rich suburb of a few really shitty cities.

I don't know a damn thing about brigdeport other than it is an even worse hole than hartford, but, I would guess that it, like hartford and new haven has a small corner somewhere with an upscale neighborhood.

What sucks is that these cities no longer have substantial middle class neighborhoods. I assume the same can be said for crapchester. All the middle class are out in the 'burbs or moved away, mostly to the south.

If CT continues on it's path of oppressive taxation and the pols don't grow a sack in their dealings with the gubmint employee unions, CT will look like upstate NY in another 10 years or so. Our gubmint employees have pretty much been using the UAW playbook and it will lead to the same end. Businesses won't just keep rolling over and paying. They will eventually move to SC or alabama or where ever.

Rochester actually has a few areas that are predominantly middle class. What we call the South Wedge and the 19th Ward are two examples that immediately come to mind. Oh and the area south of Cobbs Hill and the Winton/Browncroft area also have strong middle class populations. And lest we forget the Park Avenue neighborhood. Oh I'll give you that Rochester is home to some shitty ass neighborhoods. But there are plenty of places in Rochester where I would take my wife to dine or attend a festival/concert.

Oh, and even in the worst areas, there are still middle class folk. I work with a few who, despite having a good job, would rather take their chances than move. Home is home, no matter how bad everyone else might think it is.

Sounds like it's a step or three up from b'port.

[PSUFAN]

The city of Pittsburgh takes the residency issue very seriously. Lots of folks have been fired for maintaining a city address, including a guy in my department who had been there 25+ years.

Pittsburgh has an occupation privilege tax. For years it was 10 bucks a year. A few years back they talked about making it $52 a year...and the suburbanites and their representatives acted like you grabbed them by the jaw and shit down their pieholes.

5% is far too much...but if you think $52 a year is a lot, then your priorities are fucked up. Are the streets supposed to sweep themselves? Is it your intention to contribute absolutely nothing to the upkeep of the city where you work every day?

I understand the tendency to be wary of how public dollars are spent, believe me - but there is such a thing as taking it too far.

[Screw_Michigan]

Is it your intention to contribute absolutely nothing to the upkeep of the city where you work every day?

Absolutely.

Sin,

Montgomery County, Md., commuters as well as those in Northern Virginia. DC doesn't have a commuter tax and Congress won't let them have one. Fuck Congress.

[BSmack]

Is it your intention to contribute absolutely nothing to the upkeep of the city where you work every day?

Yep,

sin

People in suburban Monroe County who refuse to consider Metro Government.