Shout Out to Kyrie Irving...

[atmdad]

Poptart,

You so vehemently argued in previous threads that the earth curves at a rate of 8" per mile squared (or something like that, your words.)

How does this fit into your thesis that the earth is some ambiguous shape that your internet research has not allowed you to come to a definitive conclusion yet of the actual shape versus the overwhelming consensus that the earth is generally a spherical object?

[Dan Vogel]

There is no question that the overwhelming consensus is that the globe earth is correct.

I don't think I should need to tell anyone (with a brain) that "overwhelming consensus" does not always = TRUTH.

You're aware that "overwhelming consensus" for many years was that the earth is flat.
Was that TRUTH?

Truth is not based on majority rule.

That's #1.


Number 2, I gave you and Dunce every opportunity to inform me (and the rest of the board) what the earth curvature rate is for your globe, seeing as you both protest so hard against the 8" per mile squared that I have cited so many times.

I posted at least a half-dozen links which show this rate to be reality, for your globe model.

I know more about your globe model than you do, yes?

If 8" per mile squared is not accurate, by all means, nut up and SHOW US what the real rate is.

Dunce pussed out, utterly humiliated himself with his math insanity, and instead continues to yap and berate me.

Total clown show.


Number 3, I can't prove the shape of the earth.

If I had proof, I would post it.

I have posted many times, however, that the curvature is NOT THERE.
It is NEVER there.

How can the globe possibly be true?


Now, if you're 100% sure of your globe, simply post your proof of it.

It's what I am asking for.


And btw, did you watch the video I posted for you regarding what the Bible clearly tells us about the shape of the earth, and the rest of the "structure" of our surroundings?




Have a nice day.

[BSmack]

The Greeks proved the earth is round over 2000 years ago. Why do you hate geometry?

[Dan Vogel]

Oh my goodness...

Two years into the discussion, and remaining mostly quiet to this point, this is REALLY your contribution?


Post your proof of the globe.





Have a nice day.

[Dinsdale]

You're aware that "overwhelming consensus" for many years was that the earth is flat.

Uhm... no.

Only among christian theocracies, and they did nasty things to anyone who disagreed.

[Jay in Phoenix]

I knew pops would focus on the cut, one of the main reasons I chose that video. The cut away was there for one purpose only. To show the pattern for the booster separation, otherwise the video is seamless. Go ahead pops, prove that the Earth in the background is fake. On what do you base that. Show us the proof.

The rocket goes from ground to space, one straight shot in real time and unchanging footage, with the exception of the one cut, which is qualifiable. No special effects. Curvature of the planet is plainly visible.

So go ahead you certifiable lunatic, go ahead and debunk the video. We'll wait.

GO!!!

[Jay in Phoenix]

How about a split screen view of a launch? Note, there are not edits up until the first view of Earths curvature.

[Dinsdale]

So go ahead you certifiable lunatic, go ahead and debunk the video. We'll wait.

GO!!!

Fisheye lens... blahblahblah.

But a camera zooming in and out from a ship traveling across the horizon is "proof" of... something. Cameras are only reliable when it fits his narrative.

But he'll still call me out for a sight error in numbers, when my point was absolutely correct -- any formula needs to remain unchanged if you apply the same multiplication/division for both sides of the equation. He can't grasp the concept that the "curvature formula" that he cites as law is an approximation (which anyone who made it through the "hard" math classes in freaking high school will tell you.

He's desperately trying to prove the Bible is---->a science book. Yet he won't address the FACT his book says the earth is both flat and---->square.

His trolljob is falling apart, because it's possible he's starting to believe it.


#unhinged

#mentaldisorder

#needshelp

[Jay in Phoenix]

In addition to that, he has yet to rationalize his belief that Russia, the United States, France, Japan, China, India, Israel, Iran and North Korea are all in on the conspiracy, as these are all countries who have launched rockets and satellites into orbit. Yeah, the U.S. and North Korea are in kahoots. Riiiight.

Nor, has he established the motive and means that they have done so.

#psychotic

#meltdown - on two boards

#bullshit

[BSmack]

Oh my goodness...

Two years into the discussion, and remaining mostly quiet to this point, this is REALLY your contribution?


Post your proof of the globe.





Have a nice day.

[Dan Vogel]

Jayne, the you said that the boat in the video I posted is not visible with the naked eye.

We agree.

The obvious follow-up question (which you were asked many times now) is, "Then how do you see a boat go over the horizon."


You don't answer.

You divert and flail, while Dunce (who's head was thoroughly kicked in in the other thread) cheers you on.

How seriously pathetic are you?


Answer the question and restore your credibility.

Then we can move on with the discussion.





Have a nice day.

[Dan Vogel]

Oh my goodness...

Two years into the discussion, and remaining mostly quiet to this point, this is REALLY your contribution?


Post your proof of the globe.





Have a nice day.

Your white flag is noted.






Have a nice day.

[Dan Vogel]

But he'll still call me out for a sight error in numbers, when my point was absolutely correct -- any formula needs to remain unchanged if you apply the same multiplication/division for both sides of the equation. He can't grasp the concept that the "curvature formula" that he cites as law is an approximation (which anyone who made it through the "hard" math classes in freaking high school will tell you.

You have a "slight error in numbers?"

You shit the bed in epic fashion.

LMAO!!!

You claimed for over a year that I was wrong about the earth curvature being 8" per mile squared -- repeatedly saying I was the dumbass.

Nope.
I was always right.


Dunce, you are playing checkers.

I am light years ahead of you on this topic -- and just about every time you post, it comes through that you are very ignorant on this matter.

You're not smart and you're not going to *WOW* me with something I am not aware of on this topic.
I've been deep into it for 2 years.


The surface of the earth curves at a rate of 8" per mile squared on your globe.
Math FACT.

Admit it or post the curvature rate you think is correct.

You've been asked over and over.

It's why you are in the Hall of Shame.

You have no credibility and you are just a yapping mutt.





Have a nice day.

[Dan Vogel]

How about a split screen view of a launch? Note, there are not edits up until the first view of Earths curvature.

This does nothing.


Are you a camera guy?

1:00 to 1:04 -- the left screen -- what's that about?

1:57 to 2:00 -- again


Okay, set it aside...


The launch was at 1:00.

Space begins at 100 km.
https://www.google.com/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=Tv ... ace+begins&*

Sentinel 1A data show that 100 km is reached 3 minutes after launch.
http://blogs.esa.int/rocketscience/2014 ... -timeline/

The are not in space until the video is at 4:00.

The camera cuts away at 2:32 -- and just a slight corner of the earth is shown -- NO curvature detected.

This is most definitely NOT a video of a rocket going from land to space.


Stop thinking you're going to post a GOTCHA video and answer your question.

I'm playing chess.

You better know it.





Have a nice day.

[Dan Vogel]

Yeah, the U.S. and North Korea are in kahoots. Riiiight.

You are hilarious.

Babbling and flailing.



Answer your question.





Have a nice weekend.

[Dan Vogel]

The rocket goes from ground to space, one straight shot in real time and unchanging footage, with the exception of the one cut, which is qualifiable. No special effects. Curvature of the planet is plainly visible.

So go ahead you certifiable lunatic, go ahead and debunk the video. We'll wait.

GO!!!

1. I did -- and you even ADMITTED it.
lol

By definition (and your admission) your video is NOT a straight shot of a rocket going from land to space.
It's a failure.


2. Waiting? I immediately came in with this...

1. Pause the video at 0:37 -- and answer...

What do you think the rocket's elevation is at that point?

Tell me and I will inform you of something.

Your didn't answer.

Your answer will ream you, just as your answer on the boat dealie would have reamed you.


You are funny.


Don't you ever tire of being pulled through the wringer?

#masochist






Have a nice weekend.

[poptart]

Must suck having your ass kicked all around by Dan Vogel.







Have a nice day.

[smackaholic]

Have we ever gotten a plot art explanation on solar/lunar eclipses?

[Dan Vogel]

There are theories.

I don't have one that I feel comfortable assuming is correct, however.


Do eclipses prove that the earth is your globe?





Have a nice day.

[Dinsdale]

The surface of the earth curves at a rate of 8" per mile squared on your globe.
Math FACT.

Why don't you pull out a sheet of graph paper, plot that out, then get back to me... or don't.

I think you'd feel quite silly if you did.

[Diego in Seattle]

Props to Poptard for the longest contrarian troll job in the history of the Roam boards.

But this subject has gone on long-past its expiration date.

You guys realize that you could tell Prophetart that the sky is blue & he'd disagree, don't you?

[Moving Sale]

Speak for yourself. I have learned a lot from this topic being raised even from this thread.

Dims,
Your complaint, while valid, is basically a distinction without a difference for this discussion. You of course know this since you took the "hard" math class in HS. So why you fronting?

[Bucmonkey]

Props to Poptard for the longest contrarian troll job in the history of the Roam boards.

But this subject has gone on long-past its expiration date.

You guys realize that you could tell Prophetart that the sky is blue & he'd disagree, don't you?

Thought this was always a troll job...not quite sure anymore. Who knows what North Korea is poisoning the South with...

[BSmack]

Flat Earth isn't the only fairy tale that Poptart believes in.

[LTS TRN 2]

Must suck having your ass kicked all around by Dan Vogel.







Have a nice day.

But Slop Fart, you are "Dan Vogel." Nice Sean Spicer imitation, though, in sidestepping the "eclipse" problem in your "theory." But by all means pursue the curious idea that if the earth was a globe as asserted by these incorrigible rationalists, that an airliner, for example, would have to continuously steer downwards to accomdate the curve so as to avoid flying straight off into space.

[Left Seater]

How cute, the internet legend regarding all things flight chimes in and proves once again he knows zero about the dynamics of flight.

There is this little thing called gravity.

[Dan Vogel]

Dunce, you've been asked maybe a dozen times to simply tell us what the earth curvature rate is for your globe.

What is the difficulty?

Instead of answering, you yap, divert, and well, act the -----> CLOWN.


You have almost NOTHING to offer to the discussion.

I have run laps around you with my posts regarding this topic.





Have a nice day.

[Dan Vogel]

Thought this was always a troll job...not quite sure anymore. Who knows what North Korea is poisoning the South with...

Do you really think I would invest this much effort in a troll job?

Really?

I mean, I've done some trolling, to be sure, but come on now.


Flat earth is a real topic.

Sorry you had to find out this way.

As I've said, the smart people get it -- and when smart people set aside their indoctrinated bias and really look at the issue, they realize quite quickly that the globe is... well, a joke.

The truly brain-dead laff and never look into flat earth.


Do the smart thing.






Have a nice day.

[Dan Vogel]

There is this little thing called gravity.

Things fall to the earth, we know that.


Gravity holds 326 million trillion gallons of water firmly to the earth, yet a little butterfly can float away anytime it wants to.

Things that make you go hmmmmm...


... or not.





Have a nice day.

[Dan Vogel]

This is one of the most well made videos I've seen demonstrating that the curvature is -----> NOT THERE.

It is never there, friends.

I chortled at 4:10 to 4:20 when he zoomed out -- and Jayne's pathetic "boats over the curve of the earth" nonsense was again obliterated.

Too funnay.







This is what real science is, people.
At the very least, you should watch this and say to self, "Hey self... what's up with this? Maybe I should look into this and try to understand it better."

Yes?

Don't remain a dumb@ss your whole life.


The irony of ironies is that from the beginning, I have been the one posting science, fact, and real things which we observe.

Yet the brain-dead crew keep yelling that I hate science.
Chirping about all the supposed SCIENCE that proves their globe -- yet never posting proof of it.

lol

Isn't kind of strange to be insisting so vehemently that the earth is a globe when the curvature is simply... not there?

Doesn't that make you kind of a strange person?



Watch the video and -----> THINK.

Give it a shot.

You can do it.

I believe in you.




Have a nice day.

[atmdad]

Yes Poptart, that video proves that the earth is not a perfectly smooth "marble". You need to stop mixing up local observations with global observations. Obviously the earth is not a perfect spherical shape, i.e relative height of Mt. Everest and the depth of the Marianas trench.

You want proof of the globe model:

It is the backbone of all physical sciences and accepted theories from Newton to Einstein through current researchers.

Poptart, I read the bible and consider myself a follower of Jesus also, I do not see where it describes a flat earth, instead I see that GOD created the universe. Why? in your mind are you trying to limit what GOD can do by limiting it to a flat plane. Why? are you limiting GOD's ability to provide wisdom to us to understand the incredible universe He created.

You need to stop being such an idiot (if you are trolling than I am the idiot).

Best Regards Brother

[Dan Vogel]

Poptart, I read the bible and consider myself a follower of Jesus also, I do not see where it describes a flat earth, instead I see that GOD created the universe. Why? in your mind are you trying to limit what GOD can do by limiting it to a flat plane. Why? are you limiting GOD's ability to provide wisdom to us to understand the incredible universe He created.

I am reading the text, a-dad.

I could post a lot of things in response to these few sentences of yours, but I will point something out and then ask you a simple question.


Genesis 1:14-18 - God set the sun, moon, and stars in the firmament.

Genesis 1:6-7 - God placed waters above the sun, moon, and stars.

Psalms 148 - These waters above the sun, moon, and stars are established forever, by His decree.


Question: Where do you think these waters are located?


---------

If you paid attention to my previous posts about lack of earth curvature, you would know that height above sea level is accounted for in the math used to calculate it.

At any rate...
In this video, the observations are done at water level.

Surely you can't be trying to tell me that the earth curvature rate is somehow different over Lake Michigan compared to the earth curvature rate over Lake Winnebago.

But then again, I should be accustomed to people trying to tell me ------> weird, wild, wacky shhhtuff.





Have a nice day.

[Dan Vogel]

You want proof of the globe model:

It is the backbone of all physical sciences and accepted theories from Newton to Einstein through current researchers

Then why is it so hard for someone to simply come in to this thread and blow me away with their proof for the globe?


I will tell you again, "flat earth" is not something I welcomed into my mind.

When I first heard of it, I thought it had to be the most asinine thing ever.

Scroll, scroll, scroll...


Until one day when I finally decided to take a look at it.

Didn't take me very long to realize that the globe has huge issues.


Nobody looks at the issue for real.
That's the problem.


People are almost all brain-dead.

I give MS credit for at least opening his mind to LOOK at the issue - and think about things.




Have a nice day.

[LTS TRN 2]

How cute, the internet legend regarding all things flight chimes in and proves once again he knows zero about the dynamics of flight.

There is this little thing called gravity.

Excuse me, mister Seeter...I..haven't really had a chance to meet you or verify any of your statements..beyond the basic facts we've established..namely that you claim to be a pilot...right? and yet, regardless of the obliquely comical interest of Kyrie Irving as to the seemingly absurd matter of a "flat earth"...you know, as a professional pilot, that the Hijack Alert switch--right there on the cockpit console--was not activated on any of the four flights in question on New Pearl Harbor Day....and, as much as you won't, or can't look someone in the eye, I can see you're a complete and utter toxic fraud...and you will ultimately be swallowed unto your falsity...now you have a nice day..

[Left Seater]

Typical white flag from you. But even in that facts elude you.

Why don't you link us up to a photo of a pre 9-11 cockpit and show us exactly where said switch is.

[Moving Sale]

It's called a transponder and if you can't find the transponder you are a pretty shitty pilot.

[Dinsdale]

This is what real science is, people.

Can't. Stop. Laughing.

Because nothing screams "real science" like assuming the earth's atmosphere is a vacuum.

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

...and you will ultimately be swallowed unto your falsity...now you have a nice day..

Just shut up and eat your pizza.

[Mikey]

This is what real science is, people.

Can't. Stop. Laughing.

Because nothing screams "real science" like assuming the earth's atmosphere is a vacuum.

It may not be a vacuum, but it could be vacuumed.

[atmdad]

Rack the Spaceball reset.