You mean catchers CAN'T block the plate?

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You mean catchers CAN'T block the plate?

Post by smackaholic » Mon Aug 08, 2022 7:32 am

I've been watching baseball a little over a half century. I've watched catchers stand in the basepath to block home plate a million times. I've heard announcers comment on how well the catcher did this.

Not once have I heard any mention of this being illegal, but it looks like it is. The twins catcher was called for blocking yesterday. And dude was pretty much right on top of the plate. The baserunner could have easily slid outside and still tagged the plate.

Looks like baseball may be going down the path the NFL has to make games unwatchable. Nice job.

Has anyone ever seen this called before?
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Re: You mean catchers CAN'T block the plate?

Post by Kierland » Mon Aug 08, 2022 8:18 am

The Buster Posey Rule has been in effect for 8 years and is there to keep people from being needlessly hurt, but since you and your shitty right wing tards are all about hurting as many people as you can you have a problem with it. Also you are so stupid you didn’t even know it was a rule for almost a decade.

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Re: You mean catchers CAN'T block the plate?

Post by Screw_Michigan » Mon Aug 08, 2022 9:23 am

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Mon Aug 08, 2022 7:32 am
I've been watching baseball a little over a half century. I've watched catchers stand in the basepath to block home plate a million times. I've heard announcers comment on how well the catcher did this.

Not once have I heard any mention of this being illegal, but it looks like it is. The twins catcher was called for blocking yesterday. And dude was pretty much right on top of the plate. The baserunner could have easily slid outside and still tagged the plate.

Looks like baseball may be going down the path the NFL has to make games unwatchable. Nice job.

Has anyone ever seen this called before?
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Re: You mean catchers CAN'T block the plate?

Post by Screw_Michigan » Mon Aug 08, 2022 9:23 am

Kierland wrote:
Mon Aug 08, 2022 8:18 am
The Buster Posey Rule has been in effect for 8 years and is there to keep people from being needlessly hurt, but since you and your shitty right wing tards are all about hurting as many people as you can you have a problem with it. Also you are so stupid you didn’t even know it was a rule for almost a decade.
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Re: You mean catchers CAN'T block the plate?

Post by smackaholic » Mon Aug 08, 2022 9:29 am

It’s called being ignorant, not stupid, dumbfukk.

And yes, I am quite ignorant of baseball rules.

It is a stupid rule.

The runner should be required to maneuver around the catcher. This base runner didn’t.

If you want to put a rule in place saying that the runner can’t steamroll the catcher ala Pete Rose, that would be understandable. But to say the catcher can’t stand in the way is dumb.

This makes about as much sense as the rule about head contact with tackling.

Running backs use it to draw bullshit calls, and I suspect you’ll start seeing baserunners NOT avoid a tag to draw a bullshit blocking foul.

For years I thought using replay to rectify terrible calls was a good idea.

Now that we have it…..I wish we didn’t.


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Re: You mean catchers CAN'T block the plate?

Post by smackaholic » Mon Aug 08, 2022 10:16 am

Very casual watching. Mostly playoffs, really. The last few decades, it's been even more sporadic. I haven't watched a game start to finish, it probably 3 years.

For the large majority of those years, this shit rule was not in effect.
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Re: You mean catchers CAN'T block the plate?

Post by smackaholic » Mon Aug 08, 2022 10:18 am

Screw_Michigan wrote:
Mon Aug 08, 2022 9:23 am
smackaholic wrote:
Mon Aug 08, 2022 7:32 am
I've been watching baseball a little over a half century. I've watched catchers stand in the basepath to block home plate a million times. I've heard announcers comment on how well the catcher did this.

Not once have I heard any mention of this being illegal, but it looks like it is. The twins catcher was called for blocking yesterday. And dude was pretty much right on top of the plate. The baserunner could have easily slid outside and still tagged the plate.

Looks like baseball may be going down the path the NFL has to make games unwatchable. Nice job.

Has anyone ever seen this called before?
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I see what you're attempting to do here. Trouble is, it makes no fukking sense. Try harder, Mr journalist (allegedly).
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Re: You mean catchers CAN'T block the plate?

Post by Screw_Michigan » Mon Aug 08, 2022 11:01 am

smackaholic wrote:
Mon Aug 08, 2022 10:18 am
I see what you're attempting to do here. Trouble is, it makes no fukking sense. Try harder, Mr journalist (allegedly).
Yeah, it makes perfect fukking sense. I'm clowning you, you fukkin idiot.
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Re: You mean catchers CAN'T block the plate?

Post by Kierland » Mon Aug 08, 2022 11:23 am

smackaholic wrote:
Mon Aug 08, 2022 10:16 am
Very casual watching. Mostly playoffs, really. The last few decades, it's been even more sporadic. I haven't watched a game start to finish, it probably 3 years.

For the large majority of those years, this shit rule was not in effect.
So you are threatening to stop watching a sport you don’t watch cause it’s not violent enough.

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Re: You mean catchers CAN'T block the plate?

Post by Smackie Chan » Mon Aug 08, 2022 11:26 am

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Can't you just find people to play with you?
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Re: You mean catchers CAN'T block the plate?

Post by Screw_Michigan » Mon Aug 08, 2022 12:27 pm

Kierland wrote:
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So you are threatening to stop watching a sport you don’t watch cause it’s not violent enough.
Sounds like a lot of hockey "fans".
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Re: You mean catchers CAN'T block the plate?

Post by Mikey » Mon Aug 08, 2022 12:40 pm

Catchers are wearing all sorts of protective gear, even after dumping the mask. Sort of gives them an advantage in a potential collision, no matter what Ray Fosse might tell you.

It’s not supposed to be a contact sport anyway.


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Re: You mean catchers CAN'T block the plate?

Post by LTS TRN 2 » Mon Aug 08, 2022 6:41 pm

The loophole in the Posey rule is that if the catcher comes up the line--at all--then it becomes, in the words of SFPD, "mutual combat." :P
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Re: You mean catchers CAN'T block the plate?

Post by smackaholic » Mon Aug 08, 2022 9:40 pm

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Very casual watching. Mostly playoffs, really. The last few decades, it's been even more sporadic. I haven't watched a game start to finish, it probably 3 years.

For the large majority of those years, this shit rule was not in effect.
So you are threatening to stop watching a sport you don’t watch cause it’s not violent enough.
I’m not threatening anything, fukk stick. I’m simply making an observation.


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Post by Softball Bat » Mon Aug 08, 2022 10:13 pm

Mikey wrote:Catchers are wearing all sorts of protective gear, even after dumping the mask. Sort of gives them an advantage in a potential collision
Sort of.

On the other hand, the catcher's eyes are concentrating on catching a ball, while the runner can line the catcher up and unload on him like a missile.
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Re: You mean catchers CAN'T block the plate?

Post by Kierland » Mon Aug 08, 2022 11:04 pm

smackaholic wrote:
Mon Aug 08, 2022 9:40 pm
Kierland wrote:
smackaholic wrote:
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Very casual watching. Mostly playoffs, really. The last few decades, it's been even more sporadic. I haven't watched a game start to finish, it probably 3 years.

For the large majority of those years, this shit rule was not in effect.
So you are threatening to stop watching a sport you don’t watch cause it’s not violent enough.
I’m not threatening anything, fukk stick. I’m simply making an observation.


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So you are going to watch something that’s unwatchable that you don’t watch. Nice going pretzel man.

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Re: You mean catchers CAN'T block the plate?

Post by Diego in Seattle » Tue Aug 09, 2022 9:28 am

Softball Bat wrote:
Mon Aug 08, 2022 10:13 pm
Mikey wrote:Catchers are wearing all sorts of protective gear, even after dumping the mask. Sort of gives them an advantage in a potential collision
Sort of.

On the other hand, the catcher's eyes are concentrating on catching a ball, while the runner can line the catcher up and unload on him like a missile.
And now that we know more about CTE injuries most sports are trying to minimize collisions.

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Post by BSmack » Tue Aug 09, 2022 10:27 pm

Funny thing is I’m finding since the human rain delays got told to hurry up and play, that baseball is more watchable than ever.


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Re: You mean catchers CAN'T block the plate?

Post by Softball Bat » Wed Aug 10, 2022 8:53 am

smackaholic wrote:For years I thought using replay to rectify terrible calls was a good idea.

Now that we have it…..I wish we didn’t.
Replay sucks horse cakk.

On the play in discussion, the ump on the field made the correct call -- and the replay booth shit the bed with their overrule.

smackaholic wrote:Not once have I heard any mention of this being illegal, but it looks like it is. The twins catcher was called for blocking yesterday. And dude was pretty much right on top of the plate. The baserunner could have easily slid outside and still tagged the plate.
The rule is that the catcher has to give the baserunner a lane to home plate, unless it is necessary for the catcher to block the runner in order to field the incoming throw.

The Twins catcher followed the rule, the runner was out, and the replay booth fugged this one up.

It is detailed in this video...



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Re: You mean catchers CAN'T block the plate?

Post by Mikey » Wed Aug 10, 2022 1:50 pm

Great video explanation. Gotta agree with Rocco. The catcher played it 💯% by the book. The faceless replay douche just made everybody on the field, including the umpires, look like idiots.

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Re: You mean catchers CAN'T block the plate?

Post by Python » Wed Aug 10, 2022 3:08 pm

I thought this was a thread about preventing Monkeypox spread in homothectuals.

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Post by Kierland » Wed Aug 10, 2022 3:26 pm

More projection.

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I thought this was a thread about preventing Monkeypox spread in homothectuals.
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Re: You mean catchers CAN'T block the plate?

Post by smackaholic » Sun Aug 14, 2022 8:38 am

The runner had a clear path to the plate. All he had to do was slide a little wide of it and reach around the catcher.

The rule is utter shit. It is yet another attempt by authorities to make things "safe".

What it does is reward a runner for not having the dexterity to avoid a tag. It will result in clever runners using a strategy of just going straight in and being safe via a bullshit rule rather than because they actually beat the tag.

So what's next?

I know. Let's put a pitch speed limit in effect. I think maybe 55 mph might be good, in tribute of our old "safe" speed limit.
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Post by Kierland » Sun Aug 14, 2022 9:06 am

The sport is not violent enough for you we get it.

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Post by smackaholic » Sun Aug 14, 2022 9:26 am

So, you're for limiting pitch speed?

There are two things is baseball that cause most injury. The biggest would be injuries that come from running fast and throwing fast. Primarily knee injuries from running and shoulder/arm injuries from pitching.

Let's put in pitch and running speed limits.

If there is any kind of rule that should be put in place regarding runner catcher interaction, it should be that the runner can't just tee off on the catcher, Pete Rose style.
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Post by smackaholic » Sun Aug 14, 2022 10:31 am

I just watched the Posey collision.

Posey was not blocking the plate in any way. The runner was not making any attempt at all to slide. He knew he wouldn't beat the tag. He knew his only option was to knock Posey into the dugout and get him to drop the ball. And he did just that.

So, as I said earlier, address the fukking problem which is runners teeing off on catchers, rather than telling catchers they have to get out of the way, until they have the ball. Then they can get in the way and the runner can knock them cold.

It is such an idiotic solution to an actual problem. The rule should state that the runner must slide to the plate, not drop a shoulder and try to put it through the catchers chest.
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Post by Mikey » Sun Aug 14, 2022 5:59 pm

Another bullshit application of this rule. Also overruling the call on the field.

https://ftw.usatoday.com/lists/padres-b ... o-reaction

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Post by Kierland » Sun Aug 14, 2022 7:10 pm

smackaholic wrote:
Sun Aug 14, 2022 9:26 am
So, you're for limiting pitch speed?

There are two things is baseball that cause most injury. The biggest would be injuries that come from running fast and throwing fast. Primarily knee injuries from running and shoulder/arm injuries from pitching.

Let's put in pitch and running speed limits.

If there is any kind of rule that should be put in place regarding runner catcher interaction, it should be that the runner can't just tee off on the catcher, Pete Rose style.
You even use Whataboutism with sports takes, pathetic.

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Post by smackaholic » Mon Aug 15, 2022 7:18 am

No, dumbfukk. You defend shit rules in the name of safety. So I explain how the large majority of injuries happen. And it is not due to collisions.

I then ask about making the actual problem, runners deliberately steamrolling catchers illegal and I get crickets.

Posey is cited as justification, yet the Posey collision was not an example of what they are trying to prevent.

This rule should simply state that the runner must actually attempt to slide low. If he comes in shoulder first chest high, he should be called out and suspended 5 games. A bullshit, very difficult rule dictating catcher position is ridiculous. It puts zero responsibility on the runner. He is STILL free to steamroll the catcher. And once the catcher has the ball, he is free to block the plate.
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Post by Kierland » Mon Aug 15, 2022 8:22 am

You literally brought up pitch speed and asked what about it. Do you even read what you type? This is why you are such a hot mess in all the political threads. You have absolutely no idea how logic works. How’s the Orange traytorr you love so much doing these days anyway.

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Post by smackaholic » Mon Aug 15, 2022 11:45 am

You brought up safety.

I said if safety is your primary concern, why not address unsafe activities connected to baseball. These would be throwing a ball at high speed, which is hazardous to the pitcher's arm and the batter's noggin and running at high speeds with directional changes.

I would still like to see you actually defend this abortion of a rule, which you have failed to even address. All you ever do is throw insults and false claims of 'bode.

So, I will go over it again. Perhaps you can actually point out where my logic fails.

The problem, which I think we all can agree on, is collisions at the plate. These collisions, at least the example which the fukking rule is named after, are the result of the runner, employing the long accepted tactic of attempting to knock the catcher into next week. They are not cases where there is a collision because the runner was trying to slide and the catcher just happened to be in the way.

Given that purposeful attempts to knock the ball loose is the issue and it is obvious, why not make THAT tactic illegal, rather than making some complex rule about catcher position, especially since it does not address the on purpose collision part at all. Dropping a shoulder and nailing the catcher is apparently still legal and this shit rule says that once the catcher does have the ball, he can block and a collision is likely.

My guess is you aren't so stupid that you fail to understand what I am saying. You are simply a contrarian cunt.
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Post by Kierland » Mon Aug 15, 2022 1:43 pm

What about pitch speed is literally Whataboutism. It’s in the name dum dum.

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Post by smackaholic » Mon Aug 15, 2022 4:46 pm

Mark Twain was right.

Never argue with an idiot.

But, WTF, I got some time to burn.

So I use “whataboutism” when discussing a topic.

So does pretty much anyone.

And since you can’t address my point in any coherent way, you do what you do. You call something a name.

It’s all you got.


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Post by Screw_Michigan » Mon Aug 15, 2022 5:51 pm

smackaholic wrote:
Mon Aug 15, 2022 4:46 pm
Mark Twain was right.

Never argue with an idiot.

But, WTF, I got some time to burn.

So I use “whataboutism” when discussing a topic.

So does pretty much anyone.

And since you can’t address my point in any coherent way, you do what you do. You call something a name.

It’s all you got.


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Post by smackaholic » Mon Aug 15, 2022 8:11 pm

You mean the one the FBI supposedly lost?


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Post by Kierland » Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:00 am

smackaholic wrote:
Mon Aug 15, 2022 4:46 pm
Mark Twain was right.

Never argue with an idiot.

But, WTF, I got some time to burn.

So I use “whataboutism” when discussing a topic.

So does pretty much anyone.

And since you can’t address my point in any coherent way, you do what you do. You call something a name.

It’s all you got.


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Post by smackaholic » Fri Aug 19, 2022 5:51 pm

Backpedal, how?

Because I plead guilty to your silly "whataboutism" charge?

Apparently you are still unwilling to discuss the actual issue which is how can we do something that might actually decrease catcher injuries, so I guess I'm done with you.

Anyone else here want to defend this assine rule or this abortion of a call? Or perhaps tell me where my take is wrong?
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Post by Kierland » Fri Aug 19, 2022 6:29 pm

I defended against an accusation of Whataboutism.
Then I admitted to it.
It was rightly pointed out that that was a backpedal.
So now I have denied the backpedal.

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