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Most nations who honestly embrace democracy make it as easy as possible for people to vote.

On the other hand, fascist authoritarians like Suckaholic and Left Shitter want to make it as difficult as possible for people to vote.

These people are really fucked up.
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smackaholic wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 2:14 pm Feel free to explain how exactly we can combat such tactics. Simply saying there's no evidence or it isn't "widespread" is bullshit.
There is no evidence and it is far from "widespread." Nobody said you had to like it, you fascist authoritarian crybaby. Keep it up, whiner.
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Softball Bat wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 1:15 pm All of the mechanical “glitches” that took place on Election Night were really THEM getting caught trying
to steal votes. They succeeded plenty, however, without getting caught. Mail-in elections are a sick joke!


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He's correct.

Mass mailing of ballots is a sick joke.

It is a game that is ridiculously easy to cheat at.

Please explain to me the mechanism used to detect cheating. There is no chain of custody.

Maybe Quadratic E Quashon filled out the ballot, or maybe the fukking Easter Bunny filled it out. There's no way of knowing, short of having a handwriting analysis done. And that ain't happening and is also subject to fraud. In fact, it opens up another possibility.

If the sig verifier is biased, he can not only validate ballots he likes, he can shoot down those that look "suspicious".

And with the Republican poll watchers being cockblocked as they were on election night, how do you prevent it?

Yeah, I know, g0d will sort it out.

Sorry if I'm not in the mood to wait on that. He's had a fairly poor track recod for a few millenia.
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Prove it, then shut the fuck up already.
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You are truly one of the worst pieces of shit to ever post on this board. Start giving up your paycheck for reparations now and then you can shut the fuck up about your racist blasts.
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Who filled out Dump’s mail in ballot?
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Fuck all you violent shit show manufacturing assholes. You deserve more than a punch in your face.

Where is shedick and his talk of civil war now? Fucking punks.

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Kierland wrote:Who filled out Dump’s mail in ballot?
I assume he did.

If every mail in ballot was filled out by the person it was intended for, there wouldn’t be a problem.

But we both know that isn’t so.

And with the existing system, there’s no possible way to know.


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Screw_Michigan wrote:Prove it, then shut the fuck up already.
I can’t prove it.

That is the problem.

You can’t prove fraud didn’t happen?

Would it not make sense to have system that at least made cheating a little harder?


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Again: where were you years ago when we were all bitching about voting machines and not having a paper trail? Mail in is infinitely more secure than that, you don’t want better voting you want more votes for your guy and you didn’t get it so you are complaining like a little baby.
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smackaholic wrote:Do I need to explain the process again?

You send operatives through the neighborhoods that you know have traditionally low turnout due to them not giving a fukk errrrrr I mean systemic racism. They collect these ballots, fill them out and drop them in the mail.
These operatives collected many thousands of ballots from... where?


Votes cast in Philadelphia were up only marginally in 2020 from what was cast in 2016.
In fact, votes cast in 2020 were less than in 2008.

Nationwide, more Americans will have voted in the 2020 election than have in more than a century, according
to projections from Bloomberg, which estimates 157 to 165 million ballots cast.

In the end, the presidential contest may have come down to votes from Philadelphia — but the city did not
experience the same kind of record-setting turnout.


https://billypenn.com/2020/11/06/philly ... ump-biden/



Dump lost by almost 70,000 votes in PA.

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Screw_Michigan wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 2:16 pm Most nations who honestly embrace democracy make it as easy as possible for people to vote.

On the other hand, fascist authoritarians like Suckaholic and Left Shitter want to make it as difficult as possible for people to vote.

These people are really fucked up.
Yet you want non citizens to vote. Talk about fucked up.
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smackaholic wrote:Constitutional Ammendment?
Let's start with an Amendment that you have to have had some governmental/military management experience before being able to run the show. Failed casino developers and con men need not apply.

Then let's go with your idea on making elections go from the last Saturday in October to the Sunday of the following weekend. Let's include provisions that automatically kick in for absentee voting in the case of a regional or national emergency.

3rd, fuck the Electoral college. Use ranked voting and first candidate to 50% +1 is the winner. This allows 3rd parties to run, and not be percieved as spoilers like Ross Perot or John Anderson.

4th, the courts. Judicial candidates get vetted by a bipartisan independent committee. Candidate gets automatic up or down vote in front of the full Senate if rated qualified. If not, pick another one.

Just a few thoughts. I'm sure they are about as likely as Trump losing with dignity.
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At least B can come up with some sensible ideas, some of which I support.

Government employment requirements?

Hell. Fukking. No!!!!

If anything, I’d go with a requirement that the person had demonstrated private sector experience.

Who was the last democrat President with any experience doing anything outside of government?

Jimmy, I guess.

He was sort of forced into running the family farm since, we’ll, would you let Billy do it?

Majority winners?

Definitely.

Many countries require runoffs. We should as well. Trouble is, it would break up the republicrat stranglehold.

Get rid of the electoral college?

No. It would put too much power in the hands of the population centers. I do think that all states should go to proportional voting.

Winning 50.1% of California or Texas or Florida should not mean you get 100% of the votes.

Doing this would force candidates to actually give a fukk about places like Cali or NY that are currently stone cold locks.

As for voting, I kind of liked good old mechanical booths. We had them for many years. They were simple, reliable and when used widely, we generally knew wtf was going on election evening. Time to get back to “pulling the lever”.


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The rats are abandoning ship. But not rats like Suckaholic and Left Shitter.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html

Chris Christie calls the conduct of Trump’s legal team a ‘national embarrassment’
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Fukk that fat fukk. He's trying to position himself to takeover the reigns after TBOM is gone.

Fukk him.

Fukk Mitt.

Fukk all the other fakes.

The Republican party is now a working class, populist party. I hope it also becomes more Libertarian. I think it will, as many of the social conservatives jumped on the Trump Train despite the fact that Trump is a long ways from being an actual social conservative.

What I would really like to see is someone less abrasive than Trump. Yeah, I know, low bar. Someone who will be honest about things like the fact that borrowing our way into prosperity can't work, despite our attempting to do it for the last half century or so. BTW, it is the biggest problem I had with Trump. He never should have signed the wreckless budgets that both Ryan and Pelosi gave him.

We need to cut spending across the board. Yes, even military. We need to tariff the fukk out of the Chicoms, bring troops home whenever possible. We need to fix the half century old legal trainwreck that is Roe V Wade. It needs to be a fukking ammendment. It should say more or less what Roe says, but be an actual amendment. Problem is, the left doesn' want to lose it as a political football and the holy rollers want full abolishment of abortion because Jesus.
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It’s a racist warmongering party run by rich assholes bent on killing anything that gets in their way, including the planet.
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We're beyond #45, shit show over.
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Hey Bobby. How you been.


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Kierland wrote:It’s a racist warmongering party run by rich assholes bent on killing anything that gets in their way, including the planet.
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There are rich assholes and war mongers in both parties. It is a bipartisan effort.


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smackaholic wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 9:29 pm Hey Bobby. How you been.


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smackaholic wrote:Fukk that fat fukk. He's trying to position himself to takeover the reigns after TBOM is gone.

Fukk him.

Fukk Mitt.

Fukk all the other fakes.
Almost all of the GOP senators and congresspeople know Dump & Rudy are completely full of shit.

The issue for these representatives is that the people they represent, the voters, by-and-large glom on to everything Dump says and claims it as gospel.
They are deluded m0rons.

So the representatives fear that if they speak out of step with Donald they will alienate the folks they represent, and jeopardize their future.

To put it more bluntly, these GOP representatives are pitiful cocksuckers.


You've got just a few who have enough moxie to call things as they are, sort of.
Romney, Christie here, etc.


Donald Dump is a con, dude.
It has been his whole life.

Wake up any any day now.
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I don’t know what Christie’s core principals are. He’s an opportunistic political weasel.

Mitt?

Who knows. He’s an old timer GOPer in the Bush mold. More worried about being “presidential” whatever the fukk that is. Basically a lapdog for the Democrats.

He seems to be under the illusion that he and the other old timey GOPers will get their party back when that Orange brute goes away.

He’s wrong.

Hopefully someone like Cruz who has a little bit of Trump’s orneryness along with people like Jim Jordan will be in charge.

I’m hoping Tim Scott is part of it too but I’m concerned that he doesn’t have the fire in the belly needed. But it would be fun to watch the democrat heads explode as they try to paint Scott a racist.


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smackaholic wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 9:31 pm
Kierland wrote:It’s a racist warmongering party run by rich assholes bent on killing anything that gets in their way, including the planet.
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Right but you give the racist side a pass and suck orange dick anyways.
Why is that?
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Keep sucking that orange cock until irrelevance.

Dump will continue to direct the GOP, to the disaster of the party for as long as the party holds his sack.

Challenging gubernatorial incumbents (Kemp, DeWine) at the expense of general elections will further push conservatives into irrelevance.

Dump is good at division. Everything he touches will be fragmented. Hand him the keys to the party and watch it disintegrate.

He’s already doing a wonderful job of dividing the rational conservative from the wacko nut jobs. Keep sucking that orange dick to the graveyard.

Ted Cruz? 2024? He’ll need to wash Donnie’s balls daily. While you would certainly delight in that, Ted and many other candidates may not. More likely the nomination meanders to.... who knows?
Meanwhile, ANYONE the Dems put forth will crush whoever. Remember how Sleepy Joe knocked the fuck outta Dumpy? Yeah.

Your fellow tards would be best off figuring how to clean house and reorganizing for a decade down the road, after the orange fat man is done redirecting and distorting anything conservatives have for an agenda.
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The Rs knew what to do to fix the problem they saw on the horizon and so they devised the Southern Strategy.* This is the end result of their work. They got what they wanted, power disproportionate to their numbers and the way they did it was by taking the racists from the Ds and bending them to their will. Now almost all of the dudes that cooked up that evil plan are dead and their brainless offspring of Kens and Karens are walking the earth- confused, angry and toting guns.

This is not going to end well.


* “From now on, the Republicans are never going to get more than 10 to 20 percent of the Negro vote and they don't need any more than that... but Republicans would be shortsighted if they weakened enforcement of the Voting Rights Act. The more Negroes who register as Democrats in the South, the sooner the Negrophobe whites will quit the Democrats and become Republicans. That's where the votes are. Without that prodding from the blacks, the whites will backslide into their old comfortable arrangement with the local Democrats.”
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We'll see.

Balcks will get what they always get from Democrat Presidents....jack-fukking-shit over the next four years. Some will say, ya know, things were looking up a bit under that Orange racist, maybe he was right. And don't be surprised if the next Republican ticket doesn't have a little more melanin than usual. I am hoping Cruz/Scott.

Such a ticket will get 50% or more of the hispanic vote and maybe 30% of blacks. If that happens and there is something approximating an honest election, it will be game over.
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smackaholic wrote:I’m hoping Tim Scott is part of it too
Was brought out of the closet today by C. Bernstein.

Scott is a closet hater of Donald Dump.

LOL

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smackaholic wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 5:38 pmGet rid of the electoral college?

No. It would put too much power in the hands of the population centers. I do think that all states should go to proportional voting.
Only for Pres/VP, or for state votes as well? Keep it simple and democratic - one person (registered to vote and legally cast ballots only), one vote, with each vote being equal to all others regardless of who casts it and where that person lives. Period. For ALL elections. No electoral college, no proportional voting. If popular vote is good enough for every other election in the country, it should be good enough for general elections. I know this doesn't sit well with you because your orange boy has yet to win a popular vote, but that's not a legitimate reason to make votes in population centers count less than those cast in the cornfields.

I'm sure you'll deny this, but IF Trump had won the election under the given rules - electoral college, and with each state responsible for establishing its own voting system - we wouldn't be hearing your crying about how everything is so fucked up. When the election officials of each state say that the elections were secure, fair, and without fraud, you would've been 100% in agreement, because your boy won. But you lap up Trump's rhetoric and unfailingly regurgitate it. Basically, "If we win, the election was fair. If we lose, it was rigged." AZ, as an example, has been using widespread mail-in voting for decades and until recently has been a reliably red state. Does that mean that, since the opportunity for fraud and shenanigans was as prevalent in prior elections as it was for this one, Republicans just did a better job of cheating in previous years? Of course not! Because they won, so they were fair in your book. But once they lose, oh, well, then there must've been ballot harvesting, chain of custody issues, dead people voting, cats voting, etc. And to the best of my knowledge (which may admittedly be suspect since I haven't studied the details of how every state came up with their election processes), it's not a buncha Democrats forcing these processes and laws down the throats of Republicans. Both parties have a say in how they will be done, and I'm guessing they (both parties) considered the possibilities and likelihood of abuse and fraud and instituted some level of safeguards (insufficient in your opinion, obviously) to combat them. I'm fairly certain there haven't been post-election discussions like "Say, you know, that ballot harvesting potential, unsolicited ballot mailings, and chain of custody issue that smackaholic brought up were things we shoulda thought of when we made the rules."

And let's examine the narrative you're actually promoting. Let's make the VERY oversimplified generalization (which essentially is true here on the board) that Republicans believe Democrats are idiots and vice versa. And let's also assume that the numbers Kierland posted in another thread (I think) about indictments and convictions of both parties over the past ~50 years are true. (I haven't seen anyone disputing them, so I'll presume they're legit.) One way to interpret those numbers would be to conclude that there have been far more criminals among Republicans in high Federal offices than Democrats. Another interpretation might be that Democrats are just as dirty, but are simply smarter at not getting caught. Neither of those interpretations shed a favorable light on Republicans - they're either more prone to break laws or too stupid to not get caught. And that includes what you're pushing for everyone to believe happened during this election, which is that the Democrats are so smart that they can commit perfect wide-spread voting crimes across multiple states (including those with Republican governors and/or Secretaries of State) without leaving a trail of evidence, or that the Rs are just too dumb to be able to find the evidence. Which of those do you believe to be true?
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The bolded part is true enough, although you pretty much do the heavy lifting for me. As far as TDS, believe that about me if you want, but as you said, I've made hardly any mention about politics in general or Trump specifically over the past 4+ years other than to say he would likely win re-election and that I don't like him for a number of reasons. I don't much care for Nancy Pelosi or Maxine Waters, either. Nor am I a huge fan of Joe Biden. There's no question that this election, as with most, came down to the lesser of evils. Trump just happens to lap the field multiple times as far as being completely unqualified in so many respects to even be elected dog catcher.
As for voting, I kind of liked good old mechanical booths. We had them for many years. They were simple, reliable and when used widely, we generally knew wtf was going on election evening. Time to get back to “pulling the lever”.
I suppose you like black-and-white TVs and AM transistor radios, too. Hell, I consider myself to be somewhat of a Luddite, but I understand that technology will continue to march forward regardless of how much you or I may not want it to. It comes with risks and shortfalls, but so did what it replaced. Frankly, if there was fraud anywhere near the scale on which you believe there was, I'd want it to be exposed and rectified even if it meant the election results would be different. But you (or anyone else) will have to provide the evidence, which I know is a word you hate these days. Until you can do so, just STFU and take your loss with more dignity than the Democrats did in 2016. That's an extremely low bar, and yet you and your ilk still manage to easily limbo under it.
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Smackie Chan wrote: Tue Nov 24, 2020 6:46 am
smackaholic wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 5:38 pmGet rid of the electoral college?

No. It would put too much power in the hands of the population centers. I do think that all states should go to proportional voting.
Only for Pres/VP, or for state votes as well? Keep it simple and democratic - one person (registered to vote and legally cast ballots only), one vote, with each vote being equal to all others regardless of who casts it and where that person lives. Period. For ALL elections. No electoral college, no proportional voting. If popular vote is good enough for every other election in the country, it should be good enough for general elections. I know this doesn't sit well with you because your orange boy has yet to win a popular vote, but that's not a legitimate reason to make votes in population centers count less than those cast in the cornfields.

I'm sure you'll deny this, but IF Trump had won the election under the given rules - electoral college, and with each state responsible for establishing its own voting system - we wouldn't be hearing your crying about how everything is so fucked up. When the election officials of each state say that the elections were secure, fair, and without fraud, you would've been 100% in agreement, because your boy won. But you lap up Trump's rhetoric and unfailingly regurgitate it. Basically, "If we win, the election was fair. If we lose, it was rigged." AZ, as an example, has been using widespread mail-in voting for decades and until recently has been a reliably red state. Does that mean that, since the opportunity for fraud and shenanigans was as prevalent in prior elections as it was for this one, Republicans just did a better job of cheating in previous years? Of course not! Because they won, so they were fair in your book. But once they lose, oh, well, then there must've been ballot harvesting, chain of custody issues, dead people voting, cats voting, etc. And to the best of my knowledge (which may admittedly be suspect since I haven't studied the details of how every state came up with their election processes), it's not a buncha Democrats forcing these processes and laws down the throats of Republicans. Both parties have a say in how they will be done, and I'm guessing they (both parties) considered the possibilities and likelihood of abuse and fraud and instituted some level of safeguards (insufficient in your opinion, obviously) to combat them. I'm fairly certain there haven't been post-election discussions like "Say, you know, that ballot harvesting potential, unsolicited ballot mailings, and chain of custody issue that smackaholic brought up were things we shoulda thought of when we made the rules."

And let's examine the narrative you're actually promoting. Let's make the VERY oversimplified generalization (which essentially is true here on the board) that Republicans believe Democrats are idiots and vice versa. And let's also assume that the numbers Kierland posted in another thread (I think) about indictments and convictions of both parties over the past ~50 years are true. (I haven't seen anyone disputing them, so I'll presume they're legit.) One way to interpret those numbers would be to conclude that there have been far more criminals among Republicans in high Federal offices than Democrats. Another interpretation might be that Democrats are just as dirty, but are simply smarter at not getting caught. Neither of those interpretations shed a favorable light on Republicans - they're either more prone to break laws or too stupid to not get caught. And that includes what you're pushing for everyone to believe happened during this election, which is that the Democrats are so smart that they can commit perfect wide-spread voting crimes across multiple states (including those with Republican governors and/or Secretaries of State) without leaving a trail of evidence, or that the Rs are just too dumb to be able to find the evidence. Which of those do you believe to be true?
Still waiting to hear from SC, who generally is fairly quiet when it comes to the political arena in this dump and I don't think is for marxist rule or biblical prophecy running out. My guess is it's a combination of TDS and having fun mocking me.
The bolded part is true enough, although you pretty much do the heavy lifting for me. As far as TDS, believe that about me if you want, but as you said, I've made hardly any mention about politics in general or Trump specifically over the past 4+ years other than to say he would likely win re-election and that I don't like him for a number of reasons. I don't much care for Nancy Pelosi or Maxine Waters, either. Nor am I a huge fan of Joe Biden. There's no question that this election, as with most, came down to the lesser of evils. Trump just happens to lap the field multiple times as far as being completely unqualified in so many respects to even be elected dog catcher.
As for voting, I kind of liked good old mechanical booths. We had them for many years. They were simple, reliable and when used widely, we generally knew wtf was going on election evening. Time to get back to “pulling the lever”.
I suppose you like black-and-white TVs and AM transistor radios, too. Hell, I consider myself to be somewhat of a Luddite, but I understand that technology will continue to march forward regardless of how much you or I may not want it to. It comes with risks and shortfalls, but so did what it replaced. Frankly, if there was fraud anywhere near the scale on which you believe there was, I'd want it to be exposed and rectified even if it meant the election results would be different. But you (or anyone else) will have to provide the evidence, which I know is a word you hate these days. Until you can do so, just STFU and take your loss with more dignity than the Democrats did in 2016. That's an extremely low bar, and yet you and your ilk still manage to easily limbo under it.
You claim you'd like to get to the bottom of any shennanigans, or malarkey or any other adjective last used by our grandparents, yet you join in the chorus of "this is settled, you lost, get over it".

We have until Dec. 14 to get this shit straight. Give TBOM his day in court. g0d knows the dems have had 4 years of days in court trying to take Donny out with one sham after another.

Technology is really fukking swell. Being able to rub one out to a pronhub video in the shitter at work during your coffee break is an amazing advancement.

But sometimes simple is better.

Voting in person, using a mechanical device that can not be fukked with by some man-bun wearing faggot in San Jose (or Toronto, I guess, in this case) worked for many years.

Was it infallible?

No.

Not much is, but I don't see a better way.

As for we Orange Jizz slurpers being OK with this shit-show IF we got the desired result, no. We have all been bitching for months that mass, unsolicited mail ballots was a horrific idea. I blame the feckless state legislatures for not doing their fukking jobs and allowing it. A far better solution, would have been extending the number of days the polls are open to mitigate problems with mass gatherings of people.

On the electoral college topic, for years I shared your opinion. One person, one vote. My interpretation of why we did it the way we did, had more to do with the logistics of the time. That we had to do it that way in a time when information traveled a little more slowly. Since then, I have heard a good enough argument regarding not allowing large concentrations of people make all the decisions.

It wouldn't matter as much, actually, if we'd stop wiping the government arsehole with the 10th Ammendment. But since it no longer isn't a thing, and hasn't been since atleast FDR's administration, it is important to do something to keep a handful of very densely populated areas make all the decisions.
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Here's your problem, Suckaholic. There wasn't any election "shit show." TBOM is 0-for-50 in court contesting election results. The only people who think there was any sort of "shit show" in this election were Kool-Aid drinking Trump Death Cultists.

Smackie was right. You are wrong. You lost. Shut the fuck up and deal with it and get ready for 2022 or 2024.

Just STFU already. You hate democracy. We don't. Too fucking bad for you.
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I was actually going to to join in the best bets activity here at good ole T1B...The guy that runs that contest is a fucking prick
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You are truly one of the worst pieces of shit to ever post on this board. Start giving up your paycheck for reparations now and then you can shut the fuck up about your racist blasts.
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Welcome back, Bobby :) Happy Thanksgiving.
Smackaholic wrote:You claim you'd like to get to the bottom of any shennanigans, or malarkey or any other adjective last used by our grandparents, yet you join in the chorus of "this is settled, you lost, get over it".

We have until Dec. 14 to get this shit straight. Give TBOM his day in court. g0d knows the dems have had 4 years of days in court trying to take Donny out with one sham after another.

Technology is really fukking swell. Being able to rub one out to a pronhub video in the shitter at work during your coffee break is an amazing advancement.

But sometimes simple is better.

Voting in person, using a mechanical device that can not be fukked with by some man-bun wearing faggot in San Jose (or Toronto, I guess, in this case) worked for many years.

Was it infallible?

No.

Not much is, but I don't see a better way.

As for we Orange Jizz slurpers being OK with this shit-show IF we got the desired result, no. We have all been bitching for months that mass, unsolicited mail ballots was a horrific idea. I blame the feckless state legislatures for not doing their fukking jobs and allowing it. A far better solution, would have been extending the number of days the polls are open to mitigate problems with mass gatherings of people.
Not really much more to say.
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smackaholic wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 12:30 pmYou claim you'd like to get to the bottom of any shennanigans, or malarkey or any other adjective
Adjective, noun...same thing.
you join in the chorus of "this is settled, you lost, get over it".
I'm simply applying the same legal standard to the election as any defendant gets - innocent until proven guilty. Until someone can provide some evidence that shows beyond a reasonable doubt that the election was fraudulent or otherwise conducted illegitimately, I'm going to assume it was conducted fairly. Hell, at this point, I'd like to see just a shred of evidence - forget reasonable doubt - that there was wrongdoing. You, otoh, have convicted the election prior to its having its day in court. Why do you hate the Constitution?

Let's forget for a moment looking at ballots to find the evidence you're looking for. The options I see as being viable for the level of fraud you seem to be convinced took place are:

1. There was conspiracy on a national level targeting battleground states to ensure ONLY the Democratic nominees for POTUS/Veep won. Why limit it to the top of the ticket and not ensure the Senate flipped and the House gained seats as well?

b. There were multiple conspiracies at the state levels that did the same thing.

iii. No conspiracy, just millions of individuals on their own doing their illegal part to swing the vote toward the Biden/Harris ticket.

In the first two scenarios, there HAD to have been significant communication among multiple individuals either across multiple states or within each state involved coordinating it. You wouldn't find the evidence for this in the ballots - you'd find it in the pre-election communications. Who were the ringleaders of these conspiracies and where's the paper/electron trail showing these conspiracies occurred? The likelihood of the third scenario happening is pretty remote, but again, someone - ANYONE - needs to present some evidence.
We have until Dec. 14 to get this shit straight.
Judge Smails - get in here!
Give TBOM his day in court.
Oh, he'll have PLENTY of those after his presidential immunity expires. And he hasn't had a shitload of them already that've been laughed out of court? Which of his cases that haven't gone before a judge yet do you deem as having the greatest chance of success to get the results overturned?
Voting in person, using a mechanical device that can not be fukked with by some man-bun wearing faggot in San Jose (or Toronto, I guess, in this case) worked for many years.
You assume this, but there's no paper trail and no way to audit. So what do you really know?
On the electoral college topic, for years I shared your opinion. One person, one vote. My interpretation of why we did it the way we did, had more to do with the logistics of the time. That we had to do it that way in a time when information traveled a little more slowly. Since then, I have heard a good enough argument regarding not allowing large concentrations of people make all the decisions.
I'm not sure what that "good enough argument" is, but I doubt I'd buy it. You make it sound as if these population centers aren't comprised of individual voters who each have free will to vote how they want. Can't envision an argument that would convince me that where a person lives should rightfully determine that his or her vote should count as only a fraction of one rather than a full one.
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It’s funny how Holic can be so right, that software is not democracy’s friend, and yet position it so horribly that he gets his ass handed to him in every post. That takes a special kind of stupid.
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SC-“You assume this, but there's no paper trail and no way to audit. So what do you really know?”

A think he meant mechanical machines that punched paper ballots. At least that is how I read it.
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Kierland wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:29 pm SC-“You assume this, but there's no paper trail and no way to audit. So what do you really know?”

A think he meant mechanical machines that punched paper ballots. At least that is how I read it.
I always assumed that was the case, too. But I recently saw some TV news piece (take that fwiw) that had some election "expert" talking about how some voting machines did not leave a paper trail. Seems to be backed up by this here.
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But if holic is talking about no bun wearing soy boys from SJ then that would leave those out.
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Kierland wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:57 pmBut if holic is talking about no bun wearing soy boys from SJ then that would leave those out.
Ok, so be it. Like I told Screwy when conceding that my prognostication about reelection was incorrect, being wrong is just another day at the office for me.
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Hopefully he can chime in, in English, and explain himself.
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