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Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Wed Apr 22, 2020 4:54 pm

In another post, also believed to have been written by McDaniel, he asks: "Does anybody have the guts to say this Covid19 is a political ploy? Asking for a friend. Prove me wrong."

Mr McDaniel was unable to respond to a request for comment prior to publication as to whether he still believed Covid 19 was a political ploy.

Left Seater · Post by **Left Seater** » Wed Apr 22, 2020 8:33 pm

I laughed.

Wolfman · Post by **Wolfman** » Wed Apr 22, 2020 10:04 pm

Skeptics like myself do not deny that there is a viral respiratory infection that can result in death. They all do some one degree or another. We have this thing called an immune system. It consists of white blood cells, and the ability to produce antibodies which can "tie up" a virus for the white cells to eat for lunch. A healthy person will probably get better as their system is working OK. If you are not healthy, have a week immune system, or whatever, you will die. A vaccine is made of the virus in a couple of forms and that gives you a "taste" of the disease and you build antibodies w/o having to be very ill. We've all had probably quite an assortment of viruses in our lives and you were sick from mildly to severe, but you got better and now have immunity to that virus.
Now that you have a basic understanding of viral disease, what I am skeptical about are the draconian measure being foisted on us. I just do not think they are necessary. Prove me wrong.
Actually its a good thing that some states will adopt the Sweden model of response. Like a real scientific study, it will give us some data as to what works best for society when the next virus comes along---and it will.

Kierland · Post by **Kierland** » Wed Apr 22, 2020 10:30 pm

88 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2020 9:32 pm
Softball Bat wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2020 4:54 am He died doing what he loved.
Being an idiot.
Actually, he died of COVID-19 complications. You remain the idiot.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/covid ... rom-covid/

He ordered the employees of his company to work from home on March 16, the day after his FaceBook post. And, he immediately self-isolated as soon as he learned he had been in contact with someone who had tested positive.

I bet The Jesus and his dad (and whoever it is that you call the holy spirit) just love it that you take pleasure when a person who disagrees with your political views dies. What chapter and verse is that one in the good read?

He mocked #19 and then #19 ran him over. Call it what you will, just don’t call it smart.

Softball Bat · Post by **Softball Bat** » Wed Apr 22, 2020 10:51 pm

Derron wrote:Since he also has liberal leanings...

What liberal views have you seen me endorse?

GO...

Your hero presides over the most bloated federal government in history.
Did you know that?

Highest level of federal spending ever.

#think

Softball Bat · Post by **Softball Bat** » Wed Apr 22, 2020 10:57 pm

MS wrote:He mocked #19 and then #19 ran him over. Call it what you will, just don’t call it smart.

This is true.

A few of the NeoCons in here need to chillax.

It is just enjoyable to find humor in things.

Live long and prosper. :)

Softball Bat · Post by **Softball Bat** » Wed Apr 22, 2020 11:56 pm

Softball Bat wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 10:29 am Damn, crude oil is getting absolutely destroyed!

https://www.cnbc.com/quotes/?symbol=@CL.1

Hasn't been this low since 1998.

Time for Amerika to crank up the war machine.

War machine?

I have instructed the United States Navy to shoot down and destroy any and all Iranian gunboats if they harass our ships at sea.

- President Bone Spurs (4/22/20)

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 12:43 am

88 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 12:37 am His FaceBook take could turn out to be 100% right. The data (I know, that gets all sciency and scary to you) suggests that the social distancing is having a relatively insignificant effect in terms of the infection rate. Good hygiene is great. Not coughing on each other and washing your hands is an obvious thing to do all the time. But shutting down the country for no scientifically established benefit is a tad bit hyperventilative.

Excuse me? The data suggests that social distancing is THE #1 reason why we have been able to flatten the curve and actually have somewhat of decent control over the spread of #19. I'm sorry the orange buffoon you voted for isn't parroting this line, but the scientists, you know, the ones we should be listening to, have said exactly this.

Softball Bat · Post by **Softball Bat** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 12:57 am

Social distancing and mass testing was the recipe for success in S. Korea.
The issue is ongoing, but things are much better here than they are in the U.S.

Unless America is able to get testing significantly ramped up it is going to be a problem.

Kierland · Post by **Kierland** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 1:12 am

88 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 12:37 am
Kierland wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2020 10:30 pm He mocked #19 and then #19 ran him over. Call it what you will, just don’t call it smart.
It is called life. If you were smart, you’d understand simple things like that. But you are not.

His FaceBook take could turn out to be 100% right. The data (I know, that gets all sciency and scary to you) suggests that the social distancing is having a relatively insignificant effect in terms of the infection rate. Good hygiene is great. Not coughing on each other and washing your hands is an obvious thing to do all the time. But shutting down the country for no scientifically established benefit is a tad bit hyperventilative.

His FB post could be right and he could still be an idiot for mocking the CV, but don’t let logic get in your way.

And you can take your smarmy shit about how well you know science and blow it out your ass you pollution loving blowstick.

Kierland · Post by **Kierland** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 1:47 am

88 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 12:57 am
Are these the same scientists that said more than 2.5% of our population would die, and which you hungused yourself over?

Here we go again. Please link us up with something backing up that claim.

Softball Bat · Post by **Softball Bat** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 2:46 am

.088 wrote:The data suggests that the infection rate is likely 85 times higher than the testing rate suggests.

What data?

Is there a link?

Left Seater · Post by **Left Seater** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 2:52 am

Here is one from LA County that says the undercount is hundreds of thousands.

https://www.dailynews.com/2020/04/20/l- ... s-contend/

Softball Bat · Post by **Softball Bat** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 3:06 am

Left Seater wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 2:52 am Here is one from LA County that says the undercount is hundreds of thousands.

https://www.dailynews.com/2020/04/20/l- ... s-contend/

I see no actual data.

The Santa Clara findings, however, have come under fire in recent days and the researchers promised to release more information about how the studies were performed.

Okay.
Waiting.

Left Seater · Post by **Left Seater** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 3:21 am

Cool. Google it later if you want more info, or the actual study methodology.

Softball Bat · Post by **Softball Bat** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 3:30 am

.088 wrote:The data suggests that the infection rate is likely 85 times higher than the testing rate suggests.

.088 did not tell us to Google it later.

lol

Left Seater · Post by **Left Seater** » Thu Apr 23, 2020 8:51 pm

Here is another from New York. Again a limited sample, but showing numbers far higher being infected than originally thought.

Each of these continues to show this isn't nearly as deadly as we were lead to believe.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/coronavi ... story.html

Softball Bat · Post by **Softball Bat** » Fri Apr 24, 2020 10:28 pm

Softball Bat wrote: ↑Thu Apr 16, 2020 12:43 am
poptart wrote:The government (the people? lol pfft...) is essentially nationalizing banks and large corporations.

Left Seater wrote:I have heard of liberals wanting to nationalize airlines and banks. That isn’t a Donald thing.
Wakey wakey!

Airlines say deal on bailout includes provisions for government ownership

JetBlue Airways Corp. US:JBLU said the government will “receive a limited number of warrants, which are the right to buy shares in JetBlue at a predetermined price.”

Delta Air Lines Inc. US:DAL said it’s getting $5.4 billion from the government’s Payroll Support Program for airlines. Part of that will come through a $1.6 billion loan, and the carrier said it “will provide the government with warrants to acquire about 1 percent of Delta stock at $24.39 per share over five years.”

American Airlines Group Inc. US:AAL said it expected to receive $5.81 billion, in a move that would involve a $1.71 billion loan and warrants that would let the government buy 13.7 million shares of common stock at $12.51 per share.

etc.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/airli ... 2020-04-14

Is this what you tRump/liberty lovers want?

rotf...

#fools

US Treasury Sec. Mnuchin: Administration considering option of taking stakes in energy companies

https://www.fxstreet.com/news/us-treasu ... 2004241649

Nationalizing big banks, airlines, energy...

LMAO!!

When are you "tea party" wads going to wake up to the reality of your socialist administration?

Prolly right around -----> never.

#dumbfucks

Kierland · Post by **Kierland** » Fri Apr 24, 2020 10:32 pm

Left Seater wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 8:51 pm Here is another from New York. Again a limited sample, but showing numbers far higher being infected than originally thought.

Each of these continues to show this isn't nearly as deadly as we were lead to believe.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/coronavi ... story.html

Then how did it kill .2% of the people in NYC?

Left Seater · Post by **Left Seater** » Fri Apr 24, 2020 11:52 pm

Softball Bat wrote: ↑Fri Apr 24, 2020 10:28 pm #dumbfucks

That perfectly describes you.

You understand what the warrants are for right? The government gets depressed stocks. If/when the price climbs the government sells it and we the citizens get some of our money back. If the stock price falls, we get no money back. If we don’t have the warrants we also get nothing back. So having the warrants is a good thing.

Color me shocked you wouldn’t understand given your stock market predictions.

Softball Bat · Post by **Softball Bat** » Sat Apr 25, 2020 2:47 am

Lefty wrote:we the citizens get some of our money back

#simpleton

Kierland · Post by **Kierland** » Sat Apr 25, 2020 2:51 am

Left Seater wrote: ↑Fri Apr 24, 2020 11:52 pm
Softball Bat wrote: ↑Fri Apr 24, 2020 10:28 pm #dumbfucks
That perfectly describes you.

You understand what the warrants are for right? The government gets depressed stocks. If/when the price climbs the government sells it and we the citizens get some of our money back. If the stock price falls, we get no money back. If we don’t have the warrants we also get nothing back. So having the warrants is a good thing.

Color me shocked you wouldn’t understand given your stock market predictions.

Picking winners and losers.

Socialism for the big guys, Capitalism for the rest of us.

Softball Bat · Post by **Softball Bat** » Sat Apr 25, 2020 2:54 am

Bernie's socialism would be more desirable.

This current gov is boning the hell out of folks -- and they cheer it on.

LOL

Whatever...

Left Seater · Post by **Left Seater** » Sat Apr 25, 2020 4:51 am

What part of no bailout do you fail to understand? However if they insist on a bailout at least we the citizens have some chance at recapturing some of the cash. These clowns just want to give it away with no strings.

Moving Sale is playing dumb. Softball on the other hand really believes the shit he is posting.

Kierland · Post by **Kierland** » Sat Apr 25, 2020 4:56 am

What part of they gave trillions to big biz don’t you understand? I thought this was Capitalism.

Left Seater · Post by **Left Seater** » Sat Apr 25, 2020 5:01 am

What part of they are giving more money to small biz don’t you understand?

Big biz like airlines shouldn’t have gotten any bailout money yet.

Kierland · Post by **Kierland** » Sat Apr 25, 2020 5:12 am

Day 1: Trillions transferred directly into big biz bank accounts, crumbs for mom and pop and joe taxpayer*, that they may or may not see.
You: No worries.
Day 45: A few billion for the employers of 1/2 the economy.
You: What’s the problem?

*with qualifying blah blah blah

Left Seater · Post by **Left Seater** » Sat Apr 25, 2020 5:42 am

I guess you hate the employees of large corporations.

Why shouldn’t those employees get some help? I mean I don’t think we should be bailing out large corporations but most of that money is going to keep payroll flowing to employees.

Kierland · Post by **Kierland** » Sat Apr 25, 2020 5:54 am

Oh it is not. At least not by statute like with mom and pop.
So you think half the employees should get trillions even though most big biz is open and mom and pop should maybe get a few billion if they fill out the right forms and pay their workers with it and blah blah blah.
GFY fatty.

EAP · Post by **EAP** » Sat Apr 25, 2020 6:24 am

Softball Bat wrote: ↑Sat Apr 25, 2020 2:54 am Bernie's socialism would be more desirable.

This current gov is boning the hell out of folks -- and they cheer it on.

LOL

Whatever...

no.
Bernie's top down government control wouldn't be more desirable. Not by a longshot.

With a trotskyite like Bernie, you can kiss your liberty and bill of rights goodbye.

Left Seater · Post by **Left Seater** » Sat Apr 25, 2020 6:43 am

Kierland wrote: ↑Sat Apr 25, 2020 5:54 am Oh it is not. At least not by statute like with mom and pop.
So you think half the employees should get trillions even though most big biz is open and mom and pop should maybe get a few billion if they fill out the right forms and pay their workers with it and blah blah blah.
GFY fatty.

Look no further than the airline’s bailout. It says you are wrong.

Nothing new there.

Softball Bat · Post by **Softball Bat** » Sat Apr 25, 2020 6:44 am

Helicopter Money for Wall Street (3/26/20)

https://wolfstreet.com/2020/03/26/helic ... nce-sheet/

Total assets on the Fed’s weekly balance sheet, released this afternoon, spiked by $586 billion in one week, to $5.25 trillion. This doesn’t even include yet the bulk of the mortgage-backed securities (MBS) the Fed bought over the past two weeks because the Fed books them when its trades settle, and MBS trades take a while to settle. So they will show up later.

Over the past two weeks, total assets have ballooned by $942 billion – again not including the bulk of the MBS it bought during that time, which will be booked when they settle. Money creation at its finest:

If the Fed had sent that $942 billion it created over the past two weeks to the 130 million households in the US, each household would have received $7,250. But that didn’t happen. That was helicopter money for Wall Street.

Since mid-September when the Fed started bailing out the repo market that had blown out, total assets on the Fed’s balance sheet soared by $1.41 trillion. If the Fed had sent that $1.41 trillion to the 130 million households in the US, each household would have received $10,840. But that didn’t happen either. It was helicopter money for Wall Street...

And as of today...

It boggles the mind that "conservatives" actually, with a straight face, seek to rationalize this or act as if there is nothing to see here.

It is crazy town.

Left Seater · Post by **Left Seater** » Sat Apr 25, 2020 6:52 am

Agreed, there shouldn’t have been any bailout.

But neither party can control their spending.

Kierland · Post by **Kierland** » Sat Apr 25, 2020 1:36 pm

Left Seater wrote: ↑Sat Apr 25, 2020 6:43 am
Kierland wrote: ↑Sat Apr 25, 2020 5:54 am Oh it is not. At least not by statute like with mom and pop.
So you think half the employees should get trillions even though most big biz is open and mom and pop should maybe get a few billion if they fill out the right forms and pay their workers with it and blah blah blah.
GFY fatty.
Look no further than the airline’s bailout. It says you are wrong.

Nothing new there.

And yet you are still voting for Dump. You don’t see a problem here?

Left Seater · Post by **Left Seater** » Sat Apr 25, 2020 1:59 pm

Again show me a viable option. Cheeto is the best of the worst.

EAP · Post by **EAP** » Sat Apr 25, 2020 2:05 pm

Kierland wrote: ↑Sat Apr 25, 2020 1:36 pm
Left Seater wrote: ↑Sat Apr 25, 2020 6:43 am
Kierland wrote: ↑Sat Apr 25, 2020 5:54 am Oh it is not. At least not by statute like with mom and pop.
So you think half the employees should get trillions even though most big biz is open and mom and pop should maybe get a few billion if they fill out the right forms and pay their workers with it and blah blah blah.
GFY fatty.
Look no further than the airline’s bailout. It says you are wrong.

Nothing new there.
And yet you are still voting for Dump. You don’t see a problem here?

Correct.
By mid summer, YOU will understand why this country will indeed re-elect the president.

I know you can't understand now. But you will soon.

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Sat Apr 25, 2020 2:10 pm

Left Seater wrote: ↑Sat Apr 25, 2020 1:59 pm Again show me a viable option. Cheeto is the best of the worst.

Cheeto allowed a pandemic to invade America and destroy our economy. Mr Stock Market re-election platform no longer has that stock market to campaign on.

Our nation is in ashes because guys like you continue to blame boogeymen when the real thieves rip you off and spit in your face.

Kierland · Post by **Kierland** » Sat Apr 25, 2020 2:31 pm

Left Seater wrote: ↑Sat Apr 25, 2020 1:59 pm Again show me a viable option. Cheeto is the best of the worst.

Every option is VIABLE if people vote for them. You are part of the problem, as is screwy, just so you don’t accuse me of being biased.

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Sat Apr 25, 2020 2:45 pm

Kierland wrote: ↑Sat Apr 25, 2020 2:31 pm as is screwy

I am? :?

Left Seater · Post by **Left Seater** » Sat Apr 25, 2020 2:47 pm

Screw_Michigan wrote: ↑Sat Apr 25, 2020 2:10 pm
Left Seater wrote: ↑Sat Apr 25, 2020 1:59 pm Again show me a viable option. Cheeto is the best of the worst.
Cheeto allowed a pandemic to invade America and destroy our economy. Mr Stock Market re-election platform no longer has that stock market to campaign on.

Our nation is in ashes because guys like you continue to blame boogeymen when the real thieves rip you off and spit in your face.

No I blame people like you Screwy that want to continue to spend, spend, spend. Hell you wanted Pocahontas in the White House. The lady who wanted to massively increase spending and return us to foreign oil dependency.

And the stock market you mention that is up a good bit from when the Cheeto took office?