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Here's the difference, B.

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Did anyone catch SNL's take on this circus last night?

It was mediocre, which is actually pretty good, for the current cast, but damn, imagine what the original cast could do with it?

Belushi would be a riot as Kavanaugh.
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I could just see him showing up for work with his robe worn Toga style.
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Killian wrote:after the character assassination of Kavanaugh and outright lies put out there to try to bring him down
Poor little baby. Did they hurt your itty bitty feeelings? Does baby need his bottle?
Nope, I wasn't emotional about this. Just stating facts. I'm also not the one hoping for a collapse of the court and/or country just because I didn't get my way.
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Re: Stick a fork in Brett Kavanaugh

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88 wrote:Not so much otherwise.
Blah blah blah. Cite cases or get bent.
You are actively hoping that the government of the United States will collapse because Garland wasn't seated to play for Team Magic Behind the Green Curtain.
No, the Court is a farce and has been for decades. This is about Wheat not Chaffanaugh.
The irony is strong here.
Seeing as you agree with my CC assessment, I'm not sure what irony you are referring to.
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I'm also not the one hoping for a collapse of the court and/or country just because I didn't get my way.
A) My way is to follow the CC. What is yours?
B) You clearly were all pissy about how he was treated because you SAID so in your post. Post fact world much?
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Screw_Michigan wrote:If ass wipes like you had your way we'd still have segregated schools. Fuck you.
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Students have demanded free tuition and housing for blacks as well as black-only dorms.

I have to imagine that people like MLK, Rosa Parks and others would be quite sad by all of this. Why did they sacrifice so much only to see their grandkids willingly walk it all back? Segregated dorms, commencements, classes, etc, etc, etc are all what the KKK wanted to continue.

Who knew Screwy was of the same mindset as the KKK?
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Well, considering that the KKK was originally the militant arm of the Democrat party, it is no surprise that Screwy comes from Klan ideology.
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More like stick a gavel in Kavanaugh’s hand.
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Re: Stick a fork in Brett Kavanaugh

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Goober McTuber wrote:
Rooster wrote:Lol, so my straw man was over-the-top ridiculous, but accusing a 15 year old boy of being a gang rape ringleader isn't? That is some kind of rationalization there, Mr. Goober. My posts are written to highlight the the gross obscenities which are a staple of the Left's thinking and spurious accusations, a group of which you are a member, all protestations aside.

Here is the reality: Kavanaugh frightens you because in your mind he threatens that cherished freedom to kill your own children-- although in your case you are likely both too old to sire any squalling bastards due to a most probable erectile dysfunction caused by age, alcoholism, and obesity and the fact that you are so ugly no woman would have you. So there's that.

Beyond the patently thin excuse of abortion, there is no reason to not confirm Kavanaugh as he is a strict originalist when it comes to the Constitution-- unless like your fellow Lefties, you like your politics to produce the outcome, not the process by which you arrive to it. That is the salient aspect of the Left wing of the Supreme Court: The end justify the means. It explains why the Democrats have gone to such lengths to ruin a man's work, reputation, and life.

1. I didn't see anyone here suggesting that a 15 year old boy was a gang rape ringleader. I'm not even sure who this 15-year-old is?
2. Your posts are written to exaggerate any viewpoint you disagree with.
3. Kavanaugh doesn't frighten me (he has said that Roe v Wade is settled law). He is just a very poor choice for the position.
4. I do not suffer from ED (yet), I'm not an alcoholic, I'm not obese, and you've seen my picture so you already know how devastatingly handsome I am. You're batting .000 at this point.
5. To me, the reason not to approve Kavanaugh has nothing to do with abortion. And if he's not approved, Trump could easily submit another nominee that is openly anti-abortion and that has no skeletons in his closet.
6. I'd say Kavanaugh has certainly helped to damage his own reputation.
1. This thread is and has been about Brett Kavanaugh. Do try to keep up, sir.
2. My posts highlight the hypocritical nature of the Left, a group of which you are a member, despite all protestations to the contrary.
3. If a judge who has earned broad and extensive accolades from every corner of the legal world is a very poor choice for the position, you obviously do not have the acumen to determine who would be a good choice. Another Sotomayer perhaps?
4. The jury is still out on all three of your assertions.
5. Kavanaugh has no skeletons in his closet. The fact that a middle aged man fastidiously kept a diary and calendar from when he was a teenager after all these years and never threw those items out during a spring cleaning took the Democrats by such surprise and knocked them back on their heels that it reduced them to making silly claims that he threw ice at somebody and as such demonstrates a lack of gravitas for the position he’d been nominated.
6. He did nothing of the sort. His lack of candor in the face of gotcha questions reflects the reality that the Democrats were not going to give him any benefit of the doubt (as plainly spoken by Schumer, Pelosi, et al before they even knew who the nominee even was going to be) and his recognition of that fact. Who willingly sticks his hand in the mouth of an animal you know is going to bite you and not let go?

Lastly, if being 17 years old and behaving, thinking, and writing in yearbooks like a 17 year old is grounds for dismissal from any particular job, position, or responsibility decades later as an adult, then there is nobody on the face of the earth who could reasonably be expected to shoulder the load of any work anywhere that entails duty, responsibility, and commitment. I have yet to meet the person who miraculously made the leap from precocious toddler to fully formed pillar of the community by skipping his teen years. Who knows? Maybe Ruth Badger Ginsburg did. The Left would certainly have you believe that to judge by her diety.
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Rooster wrote:If a judge who has earned broad and extensive accolades from every corner of the legal world is a very poor choice for the position, you obviously do not have the acumen to determine who would be a good choice.
Ok Mr. Acumen, riddle me this: If your guy is so qualified, how come he won’t follow the plain language of the Commerce Clause?
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From my understanding of Kavanaugh’s brief on the CC, he dissented to the jurisdiction of the clause referencing the 1867 Anti-Injunction Act. However, his opinion goes deep into the weeds of tax law, 99.999% of which I am completely unfamiliar and unequipped to argue about, seeing as I am just a dumb helicopter pilot. It seems when it comes to Obamacare, for example, he believes that in order to invey against a tax you must first pay it, then seek legal recourse.

I honestly do not know about any of that. But from my reading on him from trusted sources who both know more about such matters and his history in jurisprudence, he is on the side of angels on most legal and Constitutional matters.
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Rooster wrote: I honestly do not know about any of that. But from my reading on him from trusted sources who both know more about such matters and his history in jurisprudence, he is on the side of angels on most legal and Constitutional matters.
So in other words, he is going to fuck the USC generally and the CC specifically, but you don't care because someone told you what to think and that is good enough for you. Pathetic.
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Re: Stick a fork in Brett Kavanaugh

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Rooster wrote:
Goober McTuber wrote:
Rooster wrote:Lol, so my straw man was over-the-top ridiculous, but accusing a 15 year old boy of being a gang rape ringleader isn't? That is some kind of rationalization there, Mr. Goober. My posts are written to highlight the the gross obscenities which are a staple of the Left's thinking and spurious accusations, a group of which you are a member, all protestations aside.

Here is the reality: Kavanaugh frightens you because in your mind he threatens that cherished freedom to kill your own children-- although in your case you are likely both too old to sire any squalling bastards due to a most probable erectile dysfunction caused by age, alcoholism, and obesity and the fact that you are so ugly no woman would have you. So there's that.

Beyond the patently thin excuse of abortion, there is no reason to not confirm Kavanaugh as he is a strict originalist when it comes to the Constitution-- unless like your fellow Lefties, you like your politics to produce the outcome, not the process by which you arrive to it. That is the salient aspect of the Left wing of the Supreme Court: The end justify the means. It explains why the Democrats have gone to such lengths to ruin a man's work, reputation, and life.

1. I didn't see anyone here suggesting that a 15 year old boy was a gang rape ringleader. I'm not even sure who this 15-year-old is?
2. Your posts are written to exaggerate any viewpoint you disagree with.
3. Kavanaugh doesn't frighten me (he has said that Roe v Wade is settled law). He is just a very poor choice for the position.
4. I do not suffer from ED (yet), I'm not an alcoholic, I'm not obese, and you've seen my picture so you already know how devastatingly handsome I am. You're batting .000 at this point.
5. To me, the reason not to approve Kavanaugh has nothing to do with abortion. And if he's not approved, Trump could easily submit another nominee that is openly anti-abortion and that has no skeletons in his closet.
6. I'd say Kavanaugh has certainly helped to damage his own reputation.
1. This thread is and has been about Brett Kavanaugh. Do try to keep up, sir.
2. My posts highlight the hypocritical nature of the Left, a group of which you are a member, despite all protestations to the contrary.
3. If a judge who has earned broad and extensive accolades from every corner of the legal world is a very poor choice for the position, you obviously do not have the acumen to determine who would be a good choice. Another Sotomayer perhaps?
4. The jury is still out on all three of your assertions.
5. Kavanaugh has no skeletons in his closet. The fact that a middle aged man fastidiously kept a diary and calendar from when he was a teenager after all these years and never threw those items out during a spring cleaning took the Democrats by such surprise and knocked them back on their heels that it reduced them to making silly claims that he threw ice at somebody and as such demonstrates a lack of gravitas for the position he’d been nominated.
6. He did nothing of the sort. His lack of candor in the face of gotcha questions reflects the reality that the Democrats were not going to give him any benefit of the doubt (as plainly spoken by Schumer, Pelosi, et al before they even knew who the nominee even was going to be) and his recognition of that fact. Who willingly sticks his hand in the mouth of an animal you know is going to bite you and not let go?

Lastly, if being 17 years old and behaving, thinking, and writing in yearbooks like a 17 year old is grounds for dismissal from any particular job, position, or responsibility decades later as an adult, then there is nobody on the face of the earth who could reasonably be expected to shoulder the load of any work anywhere that entails duty, responsibility, and commitment. I have yet to meet the person who miraculously made the leap from precocious toddler to fully formed pillar of the community by skipping his teen years. Who knows? Maybe Ruth Badger Ginsburg did. The Left would certainly have you believe that to judge by her diety.
1. Kavanaugh was supposedly 17 years old in every narrative I saw.
2. Your posts wildly exaggerate any viewpoint you disagree with, you disingenuous tard.
3. The judge showed a very non-judicial demeanor.
4. The jury is not still out on any of my assertions. Maybe you can appeal that to your shiny new Supreme Court.
5. Kavanaugh was certainly not the choirboy he pretended to be. He barely squeezed through the nomination process.
6. Kavanaugh has certainly helped to damage his own reputation, just by the way he carried himself before the committee. Active. Bitch. Face.

It's not so much his behavior as a 17-year-old, as much as his refusal to own it in any fashion. The false narratives he tried to put forth regarding devil's triangle, renate alumni, lying about being of legal age when he drank in high school, lying about never being blackout drunk. We could do better for a Supreme Court justice.
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To the issue of Kavanaugh’s age: Most of the narratives had him at 17 years old when he supposedly grabbed some titty. However, that one woman, the lady with the Joker’s face who was being represented by the porn star lawyer, she claimed he was in charge of a chain rape gang at the age of 15 and she had been to many of his parties where he had foisted himself upon innocent girls with the help of his friends and alcohol.

All of those silly accusations like that Devil’s Triangle meant something nefarious have been thoroughly discredited via outside sources. That you continue to bring them up as a talking point speaks more to your mind set of what you think and how perhaps you behaved as a young man more than anything else. It’s much like the thief who firmly believes everybody is a thief because he can’t imagine anybody not stealing. The Devil’s Triangle is an awful reference to a woman’s private parts only because you refer to them in such a manner. Some people would say that you are projecting, my friend.

What I find laughable is the assertion that he needed to remain stoic and stone faced throughout all these nationally broadcast horrible fictitious accusations of rape and child molestation while you completely melt when an anonymous poster on a discussion board needles you in a most gentle and humorous way about your political views. The similarity of these two reactions— yours and his —is in plain relief when you say Kavanaugh has bitch face althewhile you’ve got the verbal equivalent of the same expression every time you post.
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Hey Big Bird, here's my active bitch face:

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Which I employed as I was reading this article.
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Kierland wrote:
Rooster wrote: I honestly do not know about any of that. But from my reading on him from trusted sources who both know more about such matters and his history in jurisprudence, he is on the side of angels on most legal and Constitutional matters.
So in other words, he is going to fuck the USC generally and the CC specifically, but you don't care because someone told you what to think and that is good enough for you. Pathetic.
Not sure what you want from me, but I freely admit to my lack of knowledge in this matter. There’s plenty of stuff I don’t know much about— just ask Goober, he’ll tell you —but that shouldn’t mean that we can’t or mustn’t use the opinion of someone better versed in a particular subject than us. After all, you’d go see a doctor when it comes to issues of health and a financial specialist when needing advice on money, right? Or do you prefer to perform appendectomies on yourself? If your answer is you take the advice of someone who knows more on the topic of rupturing appendixes, well... pathetic!
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Goober McTuber wrote:Hey Big Bird, here's my active bitch face:

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Which I employed as I was reading this article.
Glad to have made you smile, Goobs. Thank you as well for a visual concerning your alcoholism :wink:
But seriously, you’re using Vox as your cite? I get that your shit is weak, but dude, I’m embarrassed for you. :oops:
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Rooster wrote:
Goober McTuber wrote:Hey Big Bird, here's my active bitch face:

Image

Which I employed as I was reading this article.
Glad to have made you smile, Goobs. Thank you as well for a visual concerning your alcoholism :wink:
But seriously, you’re using Vox as your cite? I get that your shit is weak, but dude, I’m embarrassed for you. :oops:
God, you are a total fucking retard.

1. You don't make me smile. You make me LOL. At you, not with you.
2. The choice of that particular picture was deliberate, as a joke. Not surprised that it flew over your misshapen head.
3. Media Bias Fact Check indeed rates Vox as left-leaning but also notes - Factual Reporting: HIGH. You should read the article. You might learn something.

Anything else?
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That you are doubling down on Vox as a legitimate source of factual information just makes me doubly embarrassed for you. Your shit truly is weak, my friend, even if you don’t recognize it— which just makes all the more terrible for you. May I suggest perusing Jezebel since your reading habits seem to sway in that direction, Nancy?
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Precisely, ‘Spray. I’m getting the sense that he’s more of a Vagina Monologues or a Menopause: The Musical kind of guy rather than the whiskey swilling man-about-town that he protrays himself as— but then, you have consistently pointed that out all along.
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Rooster wrote:That you are doubling down on Vox as a legitimate source of factual information just makes me doubly embarrassed for you. Your shit truly is weak, my friend, even if you don’t recognize it— which just makes all the more terrible for you. May I suggest perusing Jezebel since your reading habits seem to sway in that direction, Nancy?
So you're not big on factual reporting? Hardly surprising. The bias has more to do with story selection.

I see Meltspray has a new reacharound buddy. Any port in a storm. :mrgreen:
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Goobs you allege that BK lies, but have no proof.

He did not claim to be a “choir boy”. He admitted to drinking and getting drunk. Believe it or not, it is possible to get shitfaced and NOT blackout.

He talked of a weak stomach. I have the same condition. Lord knows, I attempted to reach blackout territory more than once. Fortunately, my stomach would not permit it. I had friends with tougher stomachs who could get there. His explanation is totally plausible. As for underage drinking, who fukking knows or cares? Many his age could legally drink as HS seniors.


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He was contradicted by a number of his schoolmates. Yes, I believe he definitely lied. The drinking age went from 18 to 21 while he was 17, so yeah, he lied about that too.
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Bismarck, North Dakota — Sen. Heidi Heitkamp was ready to vote 'yes' on Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh.

Having been just one of three Democratic senators to vote to confirm President Donald Trump's first Supreme Court nominee, Neil Gorsuch, Heitkamp had already instructed her staff to begin drafting a statement explaining why she thought Kavanaugh deserved her vote as well. Then Christine Blasey Ford came forward and accused Kavanaugh of sexually assaulting her when they were both in high school.

"I was concerned about these allegations but willing to give him the benefit of the doubt," the North Dakota senator told CNN in an interview.

Heitkamp is in the fight of her political life, trying to hold onto her seat in this red state where President Trump won by 36 percentage points. Her calling card is crossing party lines, especially when it comes to presidential appointments. Deciding to vote no for Kavanaugh was probably riskier for her than any other Democrat.

She watched Ford's testimony. And then she watched Kavanaugh's. And then she watched Kavanaugh's again, but this time, with the sound off.

"It's something I do," she said, "We communicate not only with words, but with our body language and demeanor."

"I saw somebody who was very angry, who was very nervous, and I saw rage that a lot of people said, 'well of course you're going to see rage he's being falsely accused,' but it is at all times you're to acquit yourself with a demeanor that's becoming of the court," Heitkamp said.

With regard to his demeanor, Heitkamp said the final straw was the way Kavanaugh went after her Democratic colleague from Minnesota, Sen. Amy Klobuchar, when he asked her if she had ever blacked out drunk after she had asked him the same question.

"When someone shows you who they are, believe them," Heitkamp said.

It was also Heitkamp's own experience as an attorney that changed her mind. Having dealt with victims of sexual assault, she said she instinctively believed Ford.

"I certainly think I have expertise beyond a number of people within the United States Senate and that expertise is that I have sat across the desk with victims people I've believed when they told me their story, and I had to say,'I believe you but these cases can't be proved beyond a reasonable doubt so we can't proceed with the prosecution.' And when you've done that, you know for a victim, the most important thing you can say is 'I believe you' if you do, and I think it really came down to that I believed her," Heitkamp recalled.

And there was something even more personal that she never talked about publicly until Sunday, when she heard that her Republican challenger Kevin Cramer told the New York Times' Jonathan Martin, that women in his family, including his mother, "cannot understand this movement toward victimization. They are pioneers of the prairie. These are tough people whose grandparents were tough and great-grandparents were tough."

Outraged, Heitkamp revealed that her own mother was a victim of sexual assault as a teenager. Later, she told CNN Cramer should be grateful that the women in his life were never assaulted.

"People in my life have, including my mother, and to suggest she's not strong because she's a victim was like a trigger for me. I just said she made us strong because she said don't ever let this happen, fight for your rights, don't ... this was a life-changing experience for her and she made us stronger because of it," said Heitkamp.

At an Oktoberfest event at Schmidt's Shop in Wyndmere, near where she grew up, Heitkamp was emotional in admitting it was a "tough week."

"The political rhetoric is you can't vote that way if you expect to come back. I tell people Ray and Doreen Heitkamp didn't raise me to vote a certain way so that I could win. They raised me to vote the right way," she said.

The room gave her a standing ovation. But Heitkamp is well aware that elsewhere in the state, where support for Trump is strong, the voters are hardly applauding her choice.
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Re: Stick a fork in Brett Kavanaugh

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Goober McTuber wrote:He was contradicted by a number of his schoolmates. Yes, I believe he definitely lied. The drinking age went from 18 to 21 while he was 17, so yeah, he lied about that too.

No, he didn't. What he said was that the drinking age for the majority of his high school years in Maryland was 18 and the seniors were the ones who had purchased the beer. At this time frame in question, the drinking age was 18 even though he was not.
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Re: Stick a fork in Brett Kavanaugh

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You're correct. He just never drank legally when he was repeatedly getting drunk in high school.

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Re: Stick a fork in Brett Kavanaugh

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Goober McTuber wrote:He was contradicted by a number of his schoolmates. Yes, I believe he definitely lied. The drinking age went from 18 to 21 while he was 17, so yeah, he lied about that too.
So, there were kids that contradicted what exactly? His exact level of drunkenness? And of course, they couldn’t possiby have political motives.

This was not about whether or not he drank. It is about whether not he attempted to rape someone. She named 4 people as being there. All 4 refuted her claim.

As for his drinking while underage, maybe he did lie.

Is underage drinking now reason to dump him? Even if he lied about it. Who gives a fukk?
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Bismarck, North Dakota — Sen. Heidi Heitkamp was ready to vote 'yes' on Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh.

Having been just one of three Democratic senators to vote to confirm President Donald Trump's first Supreme Court nominee, Neil Gorsuch, Heitkamp had already instructed her staff to begin drafting a statement explaining why she thought Kavanaugh deserved her vote as well. Then Christine Blasey Ford came forward and accused Kavanaugh of sexually assaulting her when they were both in high school.

"I was concerned about these allegations but willing to give him the benefit of the doubt," the North Dakota senator told CNN in an interview.

Heitkamp is in the fight of her political life, trying to hold onto her seat in this red state where President Trump won by 36 percentage points. Her calling card is crossing party lines, especially when it comes to presidential appointments. Deciding to vote no for Kavanaugh was probably riskier for her than any other Democrat.

She watched Ford's testimony. And then she watched Kavanaugh's. And then she watched Kavanaugh's again, but this time, with the sound off.

"It's something I do," she said, "We communicate not only with words, but with our body language and demeanor."

"I saw somebody who was very angry, who was very nervous, and I saw rage that a lot of people said, 'well of course you're going to see rage he's being falsely accused,' but it is at all times you're to acquit yourself with a demeanor that's becoming of the court," Heitkamp said.

With regard to his demeanor, Heitkamp said the final straw was the way Kavanaugh went after her Democratic colleague from Minnesota, Sen. Amy Klobuchar, when he asked her if she had ever blacked out drunk after she had asked him the same question.

"When someone shows you who they are, believe them," Heitkamp said.

It was also Heitkamp's own experience as an attorney that changed her mind. Having dealt with victims of sexual assault, she said she instinctively believed Ford.

"I certainly think I have expertise beyond a number of people within the United States Senate and that expertise is that I have sat across the desk with victims people I've believed when they told me their story, and I had to say,'I believe you but these cases can't be proved beyond a reasonable doubt so we can't proceed with the prosecution.' And when you've done that, you know for a victim, the most important thing you can say is 'I believe you' if you do, and I think it really came down to that I believed her," Heitkamp recalled.

And there was something even more personal that she never talked about publicly until Sunday, when she heard that her Republican challenger Kevin Cramer told the New York Times' Jonathan Martin, that women in his family, including his mother, "cannot understand this movement toward victimization. They are pioneers of the prairie. These are tough people whose grandparents were tough and great-grandparents were tough."

Outraged, Heitkamp revealed that her own mother was a victim of sexual assault as a teenager. Later, she told CNN Cramer should be grateful that the women in his life were never assaulted.

"People in my life have, including my mother, and to suggest she's not strong because she's a victim was like a trigger for me. I just said she made us strong because she said don't ever let this happen, fight for your rights, don't ... this was a life-changing experience for her and she made us stronger because of it," said Heitkamp.

At an Oktoberfest event at Schmidt's Shop in Wyndmere, near where she grew up, Heitkamp was emotional in admitting it was a "tough week."

"The political rhetoric is you can't vote that way if you expect to come back. I tell people Ray and Doreen Heitkamp didn't raise me to vote a certain way so that I could win. They raised me to vote the right way," she said.

The room gave her a standing ovation. But Heitkamp is well aware that elsewhere in the state, where support for Trump is strong, the voters are hardly applauding her choice.
So this bitch has some women’s super power then to detect when a man is lying?

Evidence? I don’t need no stinking evidence! I watched him with the sound off!”

No corroboration, ample refutation? Who cares. I have my female super powers to guide me. Besides, he’s a Trump nominee and everyone knows how rapey he is.


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Re: Stick a fork in Brett Kavanaugh

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smackaholic wrote:So this bitch has some women’s super power then to detect when a man is lying?
She's an attorney, for God's sake!
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Re: Stick a fork in Brett Kavanaugh

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Goober McTuber wrote:He was contradicted by a number of his schoolmates. Yes, I believe he definitely lied. The drinking age went from 18 to 21 while he was 17, so yeah, he lied about that too.
So, there were kids that contradicted what exactly? His exact level of drunkenness? And of course, they couldn’t possiby have political motives.

This was not about whether or not he drank. It is about whether not he attempted to rape someone. She named 4 people as being there. All 4 refuted her claim.

As for his drinking while underage, maybe he did lie.

Is underage drinking now reason to dump him? Even if he lied about it. Who gives a fukk?
No. The way he comports himself was reason enough to dump him.
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Re: Stick a fork in Brett Kavanaugh

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smackaholic wrote:So this bitch has some women’s super power then to detect when a man is lying?
She's an attorney, for God's sake!
And that matters how?


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Re: Stick a fork in Brett Kavanaugh

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Goober McTuber wrote:
smackaholic wrote:So this bitch has some women’s super power then to detect when a man is lying?
She's an attorney, for God's sake!
So is this guy...

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Re: Stick a fork in Brett Kavanaugh

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Goober McTuber wrote:
smackaholic wrote:So this bitch has some women’s super power then to detect when a man is lying?
She's an attorney, for God's sake!
So is Michael Avenatti. Weird, huh?
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